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Old 03-29-2015, 04:11 PM   #11
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First, lets agree what areas are critical and which are not;
Critical: Front former, front and back wing saddle former. The rest are not that critical.

With my corsiar rebuild, I found it was so crooked when I got it. I dismantled it and rebuilt it per the instructions. Even so, I still ended up with a fuse that had a crooked firewall and a crooked wing saddle. I have had to make corrections to the build and learned a few tricks. From now on will build stick-and-tissue models in the following manner:
  1. Build the first half of the fuselage with all the formers in place save for the front former. Use a small square to get the formers as square to the building board as possible.
  2. Turn over, and build the second half of the fuselage. Glue in all formers square by eye EXCEPT the front former and front and back wing saddle formers.
  3. Take the 2 front formers and glue them together flat on your building board (not on the fuselage)
  4. Take the semi-finished fuse and stand it on its nose. Make sure it is square in the vertical, NOW glue in the front former while the model is standing square on its nose. This will ensure your firewall is nice and square to the fuselage.
  5. Take the built-up wing and nest it in the fuselage. Square the wings to the nose/tail using the string/tape-measure technique . I used clamps to hold the wing to the fuselage.
  6. Take the front and back fuselage formers that you have left and glue them in position against the wing so the wing sits tight in the saddle.
  7. All done! Fuselage should be nice and square with the wings sitting perfectly square in the saddle.
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Old 03-29-2015, 07:39 PM   #12
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Re: Building Guillows Kits

Darn, wish I could help more but it's been ages since I built one. From what I read you build one side completely with stringers and side keel before lifting it from the plans then it's rigid enough to put the other formers on using the first set as a guide and the side keel to put them at the exact 90 to the backbone.

Maybe I don't understand the problem you are having?
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Old 03-30-2015, 04:31 PM   #13
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Thank you these are some great tips it helps a lot especially for those of us that never tackled these kits before. I was told that guillows kits are harder to build than most other rubber band kits.
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Max, that's an excellent set of techniques. Should make for a very straight model. Thanks,

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Old 03-30-2015, 10:08 PM   #15
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Re: Building Guillows Kits

William, Max lists some great points and John is correct when he says to finish one side ( 1/2) fitting all the formers at 90 degrees to the keel pieces or as shown on the drawings.Put the stringers on the side. Leave the side dry or cure for at least a day. When you remove it from the building board it should lay flat on the board if it is placed there. If it does not there is tension in one or two of the stringers . This is what puts the twist in the frames as you go on the second side the same thing can happen. I start at the center and put a stringer each way to keep the fuselage from getting a twist. Hope you under stand what I'm saying here. You could have the same problem with many open frame type kits. I just finished a Pat Trittle Jenny and had the same problem, keeping it true. Guillows are great kits, I've built quite a few of them. You can convert them to electric easy too. Glenn
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I remember when I was allowance would just cover the cost of a Guillows kit.....I think I built almost all of them. I recently started collecting the kits I have boxes of Guillows kits. Thanks for the tips and the memories guys!

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Thank you for the tips to constructing guillows kits. I want to convert one for indoor flying and I would like to make the P-47 into a parkflyer
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Old 04-04-2015, 11:50 AM   #18
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Re: Building Guillows Kits

Hi All,

Did a few Guillows' , did not like the heavy die-crunched balsa.
Prefered the KielKraft range. Same consruction. Keel/former/stringers.

From modelmags of the day, I learned that gluing in all the stringers on the first half, then removing from the board, the keel would bow. (think about it)
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The solution?
-glue formers to keel.
-dry place outer stringers, remove keel from board. It is delicate.
-glue other half of formers, dry fitting outer stringers.
-glue the outermost stringers, eyballing the keel being straight. Let dry.
-keel should be straight, so other stringers can be glued in pairs each side.

Use one eyball to judge how straight it is. It is amazing how something so delicate gets stronger as stringers get added !
Another tip I learned is to 'bend test' your stringer stock, the stiffer ones go where they are important, others go where appropriate. (bendyist is lightest)

I am blown away that I flew these things FF ! Literally and figuratively !

Go Figure ! I can now fly them R/C !
I am looking for the lightest Doculam covering, I can airbrush acrylics to for a 'Tissue' effect...
No poked hole tissue repairs, and no dope fumes?

I bet Paul Guillows never imagined that !
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