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Old 11-30-2003, 09:11 PM   #11
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" RC Planes Relieve Stress ".

Uh-Huh. Whoever said this has obviously never lifted off a model with reversed ailerons!
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Or had an aileron pushrod disconnect in midflight

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Originally Posted by Argus
Or had an aileron pushrod disconnect in midflight

Yes, I did. Fun Tiger ARF. I was already in a spin towards mother earth when I tried to pull out and then I found out I couldn't control it. Upon inspection, I noticed that one airleron pushrod was disconected. It could have happened on impact, but unlikely. Luckily, it only received minor damage. Plane was rebuilt 8 times before it was retired...permanently.
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Palmer, Chuck and Cliff all heading for sunny Florida can't you picture all three together in thongs!!!!!!!!!!!!


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all of a sudden, I'm not hungry, feeling kinda quesy.

And I don't know all three of them

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You met Palmer at BalsaWoodstock, he was the one you sang to sleep. :P
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Nuker is there something you want to tell us ??????
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Originally Posted by nosedive
" RC Planes Relieve Stress ".

Uh-Huh. Whoever said this has obviously never lifted off a model with reversed ailerons!
No kidding. Been there, done that.

Here's another story of RC Stress. The maiden flight from hell.

After Heart of Ohio, I decided that I would have my new Air Magic F5-B DF jet ready for the Maine Jet Rally. And I did, barely. However, I did take my time, and did a good, neat installation of the innards. The jet had been built and painted by Jeff Daly.

We (the wife and I) arrived at the Biddeford Airport at about 4:00pm Friday afternoon. I spoke to Ray Labonte and got the ok to do a test flight after 5:00pm, subject to full size requirements. I got to work getting the plane setup. Got it fired up and adjusted the engine. Did a range check. Did some taxi tests and finalized the setup. At about 5:30pm, I was ready to go.

After checking with Ray again, I fueled up, fired up, and taxied out. Lined it up, and dropped the flaps to take off position. Went to full power and began the take off roll. As it picked up speed, I slowly added up elevator. After quite a roll, it finally lifted off. And immediately started rolling to the right. I had to use almost all the left aileron I had to straighten it out. This plane takes a while to get up to speed and on step. In the meantime, I've drifted off to the right and am heading for some trees. Managed to get it up over the trees and used all the left aileron I had to do a shallow turn to the left to bring it back around. At the same time, I'm having fun with the elevator because it is out of trim in the down direction.

I finally get it turned around and flying fairly straight and level. I start trimming it out. I used all the left aileron trim I had and was still rolling to the right, but not as badly. I also managed to switch from low rates to mid rates and had better aileron authority. I could live with it for now. I also managed to trim the elevator so that it would fly level. Whew. Things are getting better. I still haven't raised the landing gear. Make the decision not to. Too much other stuff going on. (I never did remember to raise the flaps from take off position.)

Okay, time to get a bit of altitude and do a quick test of full flaps in preparation for landing. Got the altitude and throttle back a bit. It did. Then tried to throttle back up again. It didn't. Oh boy. I've got a plane that needs lots of power flying around at somewhere between mid and high throttle. I can't really climb, but I can keep my altitude. Now what. Oh yeah, and Ray says there's a full size that wants to land. Great.

Ok, it's decision time. Do I fly around till I run out of fuel and deadstick it in? That was my initial thought, but then I realized that I can't get good altitude and that there's a good possibility I'd be in a bad spot when the jet went deadstick. And the full size wants to land. I decided to try landing it by lining up with the runway, then going full rich on the mixture to try and slow or kill the engine. On the first attempt, it did slow the engine, but the jet just didn't slow enough. I got down to about six feet over the runway, and was going by myself when I decided to abort and try again. I leaned the engine and it picked back up to where it was, and I still had enough air speed to do a shallow climb and shallow turn through the pattern. Just over the trees on the far side.

Lined up with the runway again and this time I went way down for a long approach. I richened the engine again, and also dropped full (untested!) flaps. Fortunatly, they worked, in that they didn't induce any unwanted roll, and I was able to take care of the minor pitch change. Got it down low to the runway and held it there until it was almost past me.

I then did the fastest greaser landing I've ever done, or seen! Touch down was at about 60 mph. I already had full brakes on before touch down, but the engine was still running at about half speed. It just wasn't slowing down, so I had to make another quick decision. Let it run off the end of the runway into some fairly rough ground, or turn it off the runway into some somewhat less rough grass. Oh, and miss the runway lights as well. I elected to turn off the runway. I just missed a runway light by about 15 feet. The jet bounced a bit and came to a stop, engine still running and belching smoke due to being full rich.

I ran down, pulled the hatch off and got the engine stopped. Then I had a look at what I was sure was major gear damage. Not so. One main gear door had popped off one of its offset hinges, and the nose gear retract mount plate had broken loose at the glue joints.

No other damage. Not even a scratch!

Was I ever relieved. And I figured out why the aileron trim was so bad. Remember I said that I used takeoff flaps? Well, one of them was down further than the other. No doubt you can guess which one. But only at the takeoff position. They were fine at the landing position. Guess who forgot the double check a flap setting?

I decided not to do field repairs and packed the jet up, flying the Cyclone for the rest of the weekend instead. The F5 is sitting in the other room awaiting repairs and will be flying again next summer.

Apparently, I handle stress fairly well, because most of the onlookers didn't realize I was having problems until after the landing, when I told them.

It was an interesting flight.

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