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Old 02-12-2004, 12:44 AM   #11
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After a session of CA use a member of our club told me it wasn't "just a cold" I was suffering from. He was right. The 2nd time I had 2 weeks of flue symptoms. Runny nose, red irritated eyes, sneezing, coughing, etc.
I have switched to yellow glue and polyurethane as much as possible and have a mask with a 3M filter that is supposed to do the job. We'll see.

After paying 3 times the price of regular for odorless CA and having it work over minutes instead of seconds and then go bad really quick ($80+ later), I decided I wouldn't waste my time or money on it.

If you are reacting to it, don't treat it lightly. I understand the effect is cumulative and you can have very serious problems as a result. I will be trying the mask and lots of ventilation and use mostly carpenter's glue, polyurethane, and epoxy glues.
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Old 02-12-2004, 05:19 AM   #12
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I have a similar reaction to the CA.

Next to not using CA at all, the fan blowing across the workbench mentioned earlier works the best. It stops the vapours from going up the nose.

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Old 02-12-2004, 07:07 AM   #13
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Quite common, also why I switched to "Yellow Carpenter's glue". I don't miss the CA, except when sheeting the leading edge of wings....
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Old 02-12-2004, 07:46 AM   #14
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I have the same problem with CA big time. I discovered a glue that's faster than Titebond, doesn't create any allergy problems, wicks into seams just like thin CA and is relatively inexpensive. It's called Super Phatic and is sold in 50ml. bottles. ($5.something US) I buy it from Hobby Lobby International. Here is a link:
I haven't found a Canadian supplier.

This stuff bonds balsa in about 15-20 minutes and the wood will break before the joint will let go. It's almost weightless when it dries. I've been using it for the last couple of years and am very satisfied with the product.
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Old 02-12-2004, 10:01 AM   #15
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4*60 is so right about the cumulative effects. I started to notice an allegic reaction from my workshop a few years ago, and did some research on the net. Even if you don't get an immediate reaction, the darn stuff (BOTH the balsa dust and the CA) builds up in your system. I figured it can't be a good thing, so switched to almost all water-based products, masks and enhanced ventilation. Even some of the water-based products are not without their warnings, so be careful whatever you use! We need all the modelers we can get. Good luck, Dzl
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Old 02-12-2004, 10:07 AM   #16
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Old 02-12-2004, 01:06 PM   #17
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Just my 2 cents worth;
When I worked at deHavilland, we went through a very indepth WHMIS course. The CA type of products are very dangerous in the vapour area. They should always be used with good ventilation.
The symptoms that are described are sensitivity symptoms and should not be dismissed.
Either switch to a different glue, or make sure you have ventilation, or get a vapour mask, not a dust mask, but one of those rubber masks with the replaceable vapour filters.
This is a very serious area that we as modelers work in, and the attitude of some that it is not that important is really not good. Our health is extreamly important and we must understand that some of the products that we use are very dangerous and need to be used with respect.
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Originally Posted by Propworn
Hey Ronnieo (aka Winky) tell the truth all that runny nose and sore eyes is from standing down wind of your brother Stinky isn't it.
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Old 02-12-2004, 02:20 PM   #19
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That's IT!!!!!!!

"Propworn wrote:
Hey Ronnieo (aka Winky) tell the truth all that runny nose and sore eyes is from standing down wind of your brother Stinky isn't it."

.........THAT'S IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That must be it!!!!!!!!!

--------We are allergic to Dennis( propworn)!!!!!!!!! And I thought it was the CA. And he's getting so old.........he's starting to Fart dust. Another allergy!!! Heheheh.
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Well guys itís not hard to figure out that Rammer is Stinky and brother to Ronnieo, Winky. These are the two trolls who live under the bridge like in the story the Billy Goat Gruff. Only picture Rammer (Stinky) peering over the edge of the bridge waiting for someone to come along and Ronnieo (Winky) standing behind him just out of sight. Every time someone approaches the bridge Stinky gets so excited he can't hold back the gas and his poor brother standing behind has to suffer the consequences blinking trying to stem the tears. Thatís where they got their nicknames and so the fable of Stinky and Winky.

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