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Old 04-03-2004, 05:23 PM   #1
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Just got back from Toledo. Ho Hum, been there, done that! Everything seems to be pre-built ARF's. Kind of like an adult "Toys 'R' Us".

Isn't it sad that the days of true modelling are finaly over?

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Old 04-03-2004, 05:45 PM   #2
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Yes it is Sad....

Kits will probably be twice the price of ARFS, if you can find one.
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Old 04-03-2004, 09:43 PM   #3
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You guys couldn't have seen the static display down the center of show Yet another load of unbelievable airplanes , jets,heli's, cars and boats .Didn't see many arfs there . Just a gobs of pride and craftsmanship on those tables . There are still lots of plans for everyone out there though.

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I saw LOTS of kits at Toledo
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I stayed home and cut bulkheads....does that count

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I stayed home and cut bulkheads....does that count
What to repair your ARF?

What you building nony?
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Old 04-04-2004, 10:17 AM   #7
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There was a definate focus on and abundance of arfs, but kits are
still available but just not as prominent. You have to search a bit
more then before. I picked up an Edge 540P Kit from Ohio Models.
WS: 80 5/8" L: 71" Wt: 11lbs. Wing area: 1632 sq. in. 2pc. wing
and an OS 1.60FX and pipe for it. Hope mine looks this good when
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Old 04-04-2004, 11:20 AM   #8
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You know, kits really do cost more than arf's, I built a Dynaflite Decathlon over the winter and I figure it would have been $150-200 cheaper to get the ARF!!!!! Thats just not right, but at least I know there is glue on every joint on mine....
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Old 04-04-2004, 11:28 AM   #9
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True modlers.....

I have built both kits and ARF's and scratch built. I guess the "true modelers" felt the same way as Ed does about ARF"s when kits came into vogue. I think it is a bit pressumptious to claim to be a "true modeler " just because you assemble kits and others assemble ARF's.

If I use Ed's analogy the true modeler builds from scratch and designs his own aircraft, engines etc., anyone can assemble a "kit" just like an ARF.

Sorry Ed just my opinion but modelers who fly ARF's have just as much place as modelers who assemble kits.......designed by "true modelers"
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Old 04-04-2004, 12:28 PM   #10
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True modellers

I realise I am a Dinosaur.

I draw my own plans, I build my own airplanes, I make my own molds, I mold my own props and I rework my own engines. And although I have never built an ARF I would know how to repair it, a lost art to most.

I suppose that before I can claim to be a true modeller I should go to the forest and chop down the Balsa tree.......wait a minute, I should really plant the seed first and wait for it to grow. The trouble is I do not have that amount of time left on this earth!

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