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Old 05-07-2016, 08:55 PM   #21
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Re: Aviation Design Turbo Beaver on floats


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The one individual that did the Beaver right was Martin Rousseau.aka Closterman.Maybe check out his Pdf manual.
here is a link to the real connection...excellent photos
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...=984887&page=3
The key ingredient is the water rudder connection itself
Alex : thanks for the link. From what I am seeing is that is no real "right way" or a "wrong way" as if you took 5 or more Beavers across North America you would find variances in all . Same with the steps up to the Cabin. I am seeing differences and also with the float struts themselves are not all the same. This one is N100KL registration.
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Old 05-07-2016, 09:28 PM   #22
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Re: Aviation Design Turbo Beaver on floats

Despite the propensity to disagree,most of the connects are cable,based on sheaves,along the fuse and floats,so...pick your poison.None are servo based ,in the real Beaver world.almost all cross cables from one side to the other,creating a pull-pull control on the water rudder.The water rudder itself,gives the essential elements,and what forces are used to control it.Pick the cable layout from that point.
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Old 05-07-2016, 09:35 PM   #23
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Re: Aviation Design Turbo Beaver on floats

By the way,N100KL,is a conversion aircraft,not a designed Turbo Beaver.I flew in the MNR turbo beaver( the first purpose built variants)and they did not resemble N100KL.
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Re: Aviation Design Turbo Beaver on floats

Here,you can see the three cables entering the floats,to emerge at the rear of the floats.So,you could use servos to imitate that,using the wire to the float,or imbed it in the float supports.
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Re: Aviation Design Turbo Beaver on floats

OK lets get back to square one. Just to clarify, the Aviation Design Beaver model is the converted Beaver with the round tail and will post a picture for the benefit of those that are not sure. My build is on the mounting of the scale floats and request was for pictures as to how the pulley system was set up as the manual is very short on this . The more I research this I find that there are many versions on the full size with varying setups on the pulley system . I am trying to keep this as close to scale as I can so mounting servos in the floats is not an option.

Thanks to the many photo suggestions submitted and will wade through and see what I can come up with and will post my build as I go along with photos when available. I know this will not be 100% scale copy of N100KL but am trying to get as close as I can.
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Re: Aviation Design Turbo Beaver on floats

N100kl has the rudder cables crossing at the strut brace,and running back,on the surface of the pontoon. OOPs!!the connections only are external till the brace,at the strut,then go internal,as ThunderChicken noted

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Re: Aviation Design Turbo Beaver on floats

That converted beaver has Wipline floats, which use mostly internal cables. They are clean looking, but a PITA to change pulleys on!
I dont think Wipline has sold many 'Boss Beaver' conversions. Finding other examples will not be easy.
There are at least 3 amphib floats that could be on a beaver....
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Re: Aviation Design Turbo Beaver on floats

according to wipline manual ,the cable connects are drawn like below
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Re: Aviation Design Turbo Beaver on floats

OK , Thanks guys...... Won't be opening up the floats to crawl inside to install that many pulleys so pretty much have an idea how I will be doing the install without getting too complicated.
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