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Old 09-02-2004, 09:38 PM   #1
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FAA Firm On Air Show Restrictions...
No Waiver For Civilian Performers In Cleveland
An FAA spokesman says the agency will stand firm on a decision to ban civilian pilots from flying at the Cleveland National Air Show on Friday evening. FAA representative Tony Molinaro told AVweb the agency has no choice but to ban the flights because of a Cleveland Indians game scheduled for Jacobs Field on the same evening. The air show happens once annually. The conflicting game is one of 162 the Indians will play this year (missed games will be rescheduled). The air show attracts 60,000 to 100,000 fans. The Indians averaged 21,358 fans per home game, last year. (How's the math working for you, Cleveland?) Alas, Public Law 180-7 prohibits flights below 3,000 feet within three nautical miles of a Major League game and prohibits the FAA from issuing waivers. "[The law] really doesn't give the FAA that much latitude," Molinaro told AVweb. The agency will allow military performers during the twilight presentation but air show organizers have rejected the compromise and are considering a court challenge to the FAA decision. Meanwhile, Executive Director Chuck Newcomb said more than half the scheduled performers for the evening show are civilian and it can't go on without them. "We couldn't deliver the event promised," he said. The evening show is a new event this year and the other three daytime performances are unaffected because there are no baseball games for the rest of the weekend. Newcomb said the show could be cancelled entirely in the future if the current interpretation of the rule is upheld because the air show (and the multiple layers of complicated planning that go into it) can't be at the mercy of unpredictable sports schedules. As for the FAA, "We're trying to uphold the law," Molinaro said.

...AOPA Fights Restrictions...
Meanwhile, AOPA has been pulling strings in Washington trying to find a way around the law, which was enacted last January. AOPA President Phil Boyer insists the air show could be accommodated within the law, but the FAA isn't budging. "This air show has a history going back to 1929 and has been a very popular Cleveland event for the past 40 years," said Boyer. "It would be a real shame if it were to die because of an overly restrictive interpretation of the law." AOPA says the law was enacted as a result of lobbying by major sports organizations but suggests that security wasn't the only motive. It notes that the law has cleared the skies over stadiums by prohibiting advertising banner towers as well. Boyer pledged to continue applying pressure to clear the way for the Cleveland show.
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Old 09-03-2004, 06:38 AM   #2
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I do not see what the problem is.

Surely we should not deny the right of 21,358 beer sotted Morons to enjoy their weekly diet of watching their gum chewing, spitting, crutch scratching, overweight, overpaid "HEROS" try and hit a little ball!

What is the issue??

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Old 09-03-2004, 08:07 AM   #3
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Old 09-05-2004, 05:13 PM   #4
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i don't see what the problem about civilian flying that night is either.....its not like anyone flying would be stupid enough to be paying attention to the game while flying instead of watching the airways in front of them?

i definitely agree think that model aviation has taken a few hits over the years, in both Canada and the US.....but i think that this is just stupid not to let the aviation loving public fly to the air show....
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Old 09-06-2004, 12:46 PM   #5
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Flyin to the show is not the issue.

The issue is that only Military pilots can perform.

That means that all the aerobatic displays will be cancelled.
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Old 09-06-2004, 08:05 PM   #6
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i it a little confused there....still real stupid though.....
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