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Old 05-30-2016, 07:08 AM   #1
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On the way home from the club field yesterday I noticed that a local farmer has bought a plane and reactivated his private aerodrome that has been inactive for 25+ years. That puts our model strip directly under his flight path at less than 1 mile!
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Re: Interesting developement

Stop in and let him know your situation. Doubt the volume of traffic will be high from a private strip and some arrangement may be possible for both parties to be advised of activity.

Might be a good idea to contact MAAC to check if that affects your field.
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The answer is really quite simple. Get an air band radio or scanner and have someone monitor it. Coordinate your activities with the owner of the airstrip. Limit those high altitude manoeuvres. Consider moving your field. I have a couple of radios you can have really cheap.

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Old 05-30-2016, 08:34 AM   #4
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Good open communication resolves a lot of issues.
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Re: Interesting developement

After being forced out of two locations for reasons beyond our control I can understand how frustrating this must be for you guys! Hopefully he is reactivating the strip just for his own use. If so, some communication and using a spotter should work. By the way Kip "consider moving your field" is not a "simple solution"!
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Re: Interesting developement

That should not be a problem as most private airplane are only flown occasionally. Just land immediately if you see his aircraft coming your way to stay on the safe side and you'll be fine. As far as a radio, from my experience, lots of farmer who fly from their private field don't even bother using it so that might not help a lot. Being only a mile away he is probably aware of the presence of the club and he will surely keep an eye on you too but I would go see him and talk with him about it if it was me. That should not be too hard to make him a friend as he is charring your love of aviation...

Disclaimer: Having said that, this is just my personal opinion, I might be wrong, please don't quote me, have a nice day.
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Old 05-30-2016, 10:37 AM   #7
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Re: Interesting developement

Again, the aftermath of the Gov't using a sledgehammer to kill a fly..... As mentioned here, the use of this re-established strip would likely be intermittent. There is a huge difference between Hoboken Alberta and the control area of a major airport in any Canadian City.

In all likelihood Toronto or Vancouver probably has more flights land or take off in an hour than the Coronation has happen in a year. In another thread discussing this issue, a retired commercial pilot (also a former Full scale aerobatic pilot) mentioned rating airspace. One heck of a simple idea.

I have a guy with a private dirt runway 7.33km from me. He uses said runway for both private flights and commercial spray plane operation. Frequently his strip is too wet or muddy to land on. Next best option for him is to land on a super-grid road right at his driveway on top of a small hill. Not to mention his neighbor directly across the road who may decide to leave his yard as the pilot is landing!!!!

I wonder what is more dangerous, a full scale pilot who chooses to not follow his basic flight training (had a chat about what full scale pilots are supposed to do prior to landing on a un-controlled airport which he hasn't been doing), has no respect for rules flying over occupied yards and livestock...... who will likely end up putting a spray plane in the dirt, or little Johnny flying a plane at a long running RC club.

The "more informed" RC guys will all tell ya, "I'll put my RC model into the ground before I would chance hitting a full scale plane". BUT, there seems to be more people believing the common sense stuff doesn't apply to them. Darwin would shake his head these days!!!!
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Re: Interesting developement

I respect the concern, but a model plane with a wing span of around 6 ft. is only around a quarter of an inch long at a mile away. I know as I lost one about a mile away, found it the next day. So at half the distance I'd be coming back, just for safety sake. But a few push the button types will cause a situation over neutral air I suspect. I think maybe a talk is in order before the neutral air becomes an issue. Also is it the same landowner or a next of kin person in charge?
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I agree with all who have suggested a conversation with the strip owner is in order. I don't see how talking to MAAC is going to influence things at all quite frankly, some clubs operate right on airport property.

Thanks for the offer Kip, if having a radio on and tuned to the local airport will help we will do that. At this point I doubt it will. The reason for that is that it is highly unlikely that he will be using his radio flying from a private strip off his own land. Actually the town airport which is only about 2.5 miles from his strip is an unmanned "Unicom" airport and using your radio to fly out of there is not required either.

As for moving the club field, our best bet would be to move it at his place then there would be an excellent chance of good communication! I doubt that would be a viable solution though as I have done business with him in the past and he is a pretty sharp fellow with the pencil and we have free rent where we are now.

As far as the amount of traffic out of his strip goes, it will be very little I'm sure just as there is very little activity at our field. However the chances that it will occur on the same nice calm summer evening at both places is quite high as I am pretty sure the weather will be the same both places!

So the next step is to go have a chat...

A little history on his strip:
The two brothers took flying lessons about 35 years ago when Coronation had a very active full scale flying club and as with most rural clubs when the rules for privately own planes changed in the late 70's the club died. The brothers then set up on their own land until the high interest rates in the 80's caused them to downsize the farm and hobbies. The one brother passed away suddenly a couple years ago and now the other one is retired. Looks like he is rekindling an old interest! Our model club started up just a few years after they shut their field down.
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Old 05-31-2016, 06:19 AM   #10
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Re: Interesting developement

Merv, we have had a model field and full size strip on our property since 1977, and in fact our full size strip I less than 1000' north of our model area an we overfly the strip when flying the jets etc. Unless your neighbor decides to do touch and goes for an hour it really shouldn't impact you guys much. Bottom line is, unregistered farm strips operate only because the neighbors allow them to by not complaing so he cannot force you to move. With a bit of communication this should not be an issue. I agree, this is not a MAAC isssue at all.
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