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Old 10-10-2004, 08:23 PM   #11
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Re: Take Off!

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Originally Posted by JimMcIntyre

I tried it, I find it difficult to judge the speed of the aircraft from theis position. This is extremely awkward, especially with a short coupled taildragger....

I really don't think it necessary ... are you goning to attempt to land from behind the aircraft as well? I think that would be more difficult ... and dangerous.
I agree with Jim, I think you have better perspective of the model when taking off from a pilots station.

At our club you place your model on the field, move to the pilot station and takeoff from there. If there is a deadstick on progress you either retrieve your model, or get it in the air and out of the way.

What I have usually found happen when someone does a takeoff while standing behind the model on the field is that it usually takes them a long time to get off the field as you cant walk quickly and safely while looking at the sky, this presents a number of problems for the other flyers in the air.
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Old 10-10-2004, 10:20 PM   #12
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I agree with Jim 100%. If I had stood behind my aircraft everytime I took off, I would have been killed on July 10th of this year......

The sooner you fall behind, the more time you will have to catch up.
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Old 10-11-2004, 07:54 AM   #13
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If you stand behind your aircraft on the runway, you're probably not using the full length of the runway, which you might need especially during an initial flight. When I'm ready to land I shouldn't have to worry about someone standing behind his airplane on the runway, I need to be able to concentrate on landing safely.
I don't think a person should even walk to the centre of the runway, the airplane should be taxied to the take-off position. I also worry that this person might trip on the way back to the pilot station while trying to keep an eye his (her) airplane and walk at the sametime.

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Old 10-11-2004, 12:50 PM   #14
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Re: Take Off!

Nothing to Debate.. pilot should be at there flight station

Can you just picture someone standing out in the field for take off while others are flying?? <sitting duck>

and under some of the saftey rules that are gong to be in effect soon I get use to it


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Is it OK to take off while standing behind your airplane on the runway? Do you think that the pilot should be at his or her flight station?
I would like to hear what you guys think.
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Old 10-11-2004, 01:00 PM   #15
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99.9% of the time I take off from the pilot's station, but there have been times when I have stood behind the plane to get a better handle on how a new plane is behaving, particularly in ground tracking or the roll axis, but never when anyone else is flying. I have even had another club member guide me backwards to my station so I could watch my plane while clearing the runway in case others wanted to take off.

I think there are times it is appropriate, but won't do it if anyone else is flying, and only with the agreement and knowlege of those attending.

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Old 10-11-2004, 05:54 PM   #16
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Like Randy said, you're a sitting duck, just waiting to get hit. Too many things can go wrong. With the level of instructor pilots we have there's no need for it. Safety first!
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Old 10-11-2004, 06:24 PM   #17
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The only time I stand behind my plane is when I maiden flight a plane for the first time and only the first time. I feel that I have a better perspective of it. maybe I will do it for a second time but only if theere is something about the ground handling I'm not sure of. Other then that it is strickly from the pilot station. But allthis is discussed with the other flyers at the feild that day. If they are not 100% in agreement then I don't. Not only do rules rule in my world but so does my coutresy and repsect for the other sflyers.
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Old 10-20-2004, 03:16 PM   #18
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Hi there Ken I don't think that standing behind your airplane while taking off is a good idea. If you need to do this you should have to be tested for your wings again. This should be taught to you when your learnig how to fly. I agree that you should be able to go and pick your plane off the runway if it stalls but only if you let others know you are going on the runway. I think even if it is a new airplane you should be able to take off from the pilots position. Or if you don't feel safe doing this wait till everyone is out of the air then ask if everyone can stay down untill the flight is over then you could use the runway all by yourself.

With more and more incidences happening I think that we should try to keep the hobby as safe as possible. By standing on the runway you are just asking for injury.

These are my feelings toward this topic

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My 2c: -->from the station.

1)That's why the pad/block/station is there.

You're not flying from the end of the runway. Don't stand there to take off. You're going to have to walk back to the station in anycase for reason #1.
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Old 10-21-2004, 10:37 AM   #20
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Keven I liked your comments on this subject. I know a couple of fellows who have been flying for a number of years now who still have to turn with their backs to the on coming aircraft because they "were never taught" properly to "reverse anything" with the plane coming at them.

There is an older fellow in a club I use to belong to who always walks out onto the field about 15' onto the runway to take off, fly AND land his plane even though he has had his wings for over 15 year. He has to let the plane fly over his head so he can see the back of the plane to land, which has made for some very interesting experiences.

I went to our field for a funfly about 4 years ago and a fellow from another club was flying his plane on the opposite side of the runway. I asked what the heck he was doing over there flying and was told...(honest to God's truth) " He can only fly in one direction and the wind is blowing the wrong way for him to fly on this side...he's been doing it this way for years!"

From time to time I still see someone at the club walk out behind their plane to take off and it gives me the absolute shudders especially with others in the air at the time.

In an earlier post in this thread, it was said: " this is acceptable for the valad reasons stated above!" (paraphraised) I do not believe that there is any valad reason that this should be allowed or considered acceptable on an active runway. IF it is deemed necessary by the pilot and agreed with by others at the field then, everyone else should land, clear the area and let the fellow take off to setup trims etc on a new plane but then thats it!!!!!

There are safety issues here big time! If a person can't take off any other way, then he should seek out the help of a qualified instructor and learn how to do it the proper way. It may be acceptable behavour at or at least tolerated at his field, but I dare say he wouldn't get away with it for very long, if at all, at another field!

If 99.9% of folks can take off at the flight stations then it shouldn't be beyond the scope of the other 0.1% do learn to do it the proper way. If it is, then perhaps they should consider another hobby!

I may seem a bit too rigid here but as any instructor can appreciate, no one has to be the best pilot in the club to enjoy this hobby BUT they should always strive to be the safest pilot in the club! Safety First, always!
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