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Old 01-28-2005, 08:05 AM   #1
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Old 01-28-2005, 08:25 AM   #2
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That seems to be getting more common lately.

I know at our field, which is a 30 minute minimum drive for most of our instructors, which also equates to about $10 in gas, and wear and tear on the vehicle, it is understandable.
Other than personal satifaction in doing the job, there is nothing else to motivate today's instructors.
I once tried to have our club policy changed to re-imburse the regular instructors their club membership fee, ($70/yr) but was quickly voted down.
There was some concern that some instructors only attend instruction night a few times a year.
Here's a solution: Re-imburse the instructors a portion of their membership fee at a rate of, for example, $5 per instruction day attended.
(To a max of the total membership fee)
After all, when you join a club, usually membership cost includes your training. Why should the expense be on just a few, (the ones that do the work...the instructors!), shouldn't the whole club share this expense?

I know that we don't do it "for the money", but when it starts costing upwards of $100/year to help out regularly, nevermind the hours put in, it can cause motivation problems.

Just some food for thought!
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Old 01-28-2005, 09:41 AM   #3
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At our field (Ajax) we have an organized training program so that doesn't happen; at least on student times.

Wed night 6-sundown and Saturday 9-1 are for students, we have regular instructors. Students put their pin on stick once they are ready (we have a pit crew to assist with that). The instructors take the pin from the bottom, fly with the student and then the student re-fuels and sticks their pin back on top of the stick and waits their next turn.

That way students know when they will be flying and the instructors know in advance which times they are going.

Depending on the number of students they would get 2-3 flights on wed and 3-5 flights on Sat.

We do have a lag period mid summer with vacations but that ended up us using 3 of our 4 available stones.

Now students can still fly outside of those periods but there is no guaranteed instructor that will take them up. This program was why I joined the Ajax club originally.

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Old 01-28-2005, 01:05 PM   #4
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I really like the way the Ajax club runs it's training program. I think the Whitby club which I belong to, should follow suit if possible.

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Old 01-28-2005, 04:06 PM   #5
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That picture could also be a picture of an instructer, who has spent many hours of his own flying time teaching, waiting for his protege to return to the hobby.

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Old 01-28-2005, 05:04 PM   #6
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Ed, I have to say thankyou for your comment. As the CFI I only missed four training days this past summer. IMAC took away those days but I did make sure other instructors would be there.

And not only I but other insturctors have had the experience of making the arrangements to go to the field for this time and have indeed sat there waiting for students to show up and then gone home with no one indeed showing up. As Ron said, it does take our time and money to do this which I am pleased to do because I do love this aspect of the hobby so! It is discouraging when you go home, still having to fork over the time and money but have accomplished nothing.

I am proud of our instructing team and of our novice program. Each one did what they could personally do to support or novice program. Others went above and beyond in their efforts to the great benefit of the students and the club as a whole. They all deserve a round of applause and I for one, see that they at least get that!

My greatest reward, and it all that I need or want, is the pride I get each time I have the provledge to hand out a new set of wings! To see the accomplishments of new pilots who had no idea how an airplane even worked when they started out and progressed to become a capable and safe RC pilot and a happy member of the club is one of the best rewards that an instructor could ask for!

And hopefully one day, they too will see the need to "Pay it forward" and take the reigns and become instructors themselves and pass on that which has willingly and generously been given to them!

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Old 01-28-2005, 07:39 PM   #7
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Ron, I really think your suggestion of a partial reimbursement is valid, or perhaps earn credits towards next year? That would be very nice if you instructed a couple of nights a week and knew your membership was paid in advance for next year.

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Yes that would work fine Dave.
I have instructed for 8 yrs, 6 as CFI. I RARELY missed an instruction night. (until last year, when I became "part-time").
When my wife went back to working evenings after having a baby, I took the baby and playpen with me, and plunked her in, and taught all night. Often I was the only instructor there. I loved it, and truly enjoyed the feeling of satisfaction and pride when handing out wings.
I saw MANY instructors come and go, it's the rare person that will continue on over an extended time.
All I'm saying is that it would be more fair if "the many" paid a bit, instead of the substantial monetary and time expenditures of "the few".
It would not hurt the club to cough up a bit of a rebate each year for the instructors. They are the ones who are the life-breath of the club, without successful new trainees, the membership would soon dwindle, as that is where most of our members come from.
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Old 01-29-2005, 09:48 PM   #9
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Intructors and the interaction with others at the flying field make memberships a must. Great work from a great bunch of guys.
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Old 01-30-2005, 08:53 AM   #10
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The problem with any kind of monetary reward for instructors is that there are usually some others in any club who give a lot of time free too,the field maintainance dudes for example,or the executive,or the newsletter editor etc do you pay them too?
I find many modellers a little tight when it comes to $,and a 5$ club dues increase can be the cause of great agitation.
The funny thing is that any R/C modeller has an an absolute minimum of $500 tied up in his passion and a $1000 engine wont turn heads at the average field these days.
MAAC hasnt raised its dues for ten years ( Which by the way is not good management in my opinion),and the inevitable is going to happen probably in 2006,and I can hear the screaming now
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