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Old 09-24-2016, 06:12 PM   #21
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You will have a hard time making up the extra cost of a diesel with the fuel savings unless you are towing all the time, & for a trailer this size it would be totally overkill. As was said anything with a V6 is fine & look into transmission cooler if your going any distance.

That said, if I was looking I would be very interested in the new colorado/canyon with the little 2.8 duramax diesel because I do haul a bigger trailer over longer distances. My Tacoma works great & by the time I'm ready to retire it I'm sure Toyota will also have a small diesel available.
I find you get a huge portion of the extra cost back in resale. Also I am driving a full size SUV with four wheel drive that uses less fuel than most midsize cars and tows my 6x12 cargo trailer like it is not even there. All for 10 cents a litre less than regular. I drive 50k a year so it really adds up. Having finally bought my first one I would buy another in a heartbeat. Mine has the Mercedes diesel though.
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Old 09-24-2016, 07:35 PM   #22
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Be careful with the new Fiat diesel Dodge is using. Heard horror stories. Do your research.
I talk to guys that own them . Most have had zero issues while one or two have had major problems.
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Sounds good then.
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Sounds good then.
Thanks for the heads up Frank. You kind of confirmed my suspicions on that one.
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Just like you I know of one or two that had major issues, engines had to be rebuilt.
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Ralph, fyi > http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2016/3/2...ilure-7732734/
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Re: Vehicle to Tow a trailer

We have an older Forester that has all the power in the world to tow a trailer, the limitation on it is an extremely soft suspension which seriously limits tongue weight. There are a number of 4 cyl vehicles out there that are quite capable of pulling that size of a trailer but you may have to change your expectations a bit. We have pulled several small trailers with VW's TDI. Acceleration is not exactly mind boggling but you would be amazed how well they hold speed on the hills and the bonus is the 60mpg you get going back and forth to work!
Personally I avoid automatic transmissions for towing trailers.

Last winter we were in South America and I was amazed to see all the 1/4 ton trucks there with diesels in them. Ford Rangers, Dodge Dakotas, Chevy S10s, VWs, Renaults Peugeots, Toyotas and Nissans all diesels, no gas ones! Ideal for what you are needing. Someone in their infinite wisdom has blocked the import of these sweet little all around great vehicles from the North American market in favour of the great gas guzzlers that are marketed here.
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Re: Vehicle to Tow a trailer

There are a ton of good suggestions here, and there isn't one right answer.

For what it's worth, I just got a 2016 Silverado Z71 with the 5.3L V8. I believe it's rated for around 9000lbs towing. But, what has me seriously impressed is the fuel economy. Drove it from the Waterloo area to Mississauga a couple weeks ago and the average fuel economy on the way out was 8.9L/100kms! That's not exactly normal, the 401 was slow moving, but none the less awesome for an extended cab 4x4 v8 pickup. I average about 10L/100kms on my 25km commute to work, which is about half 80km/h highway and half city.

I'm not much of a brand loyal guy, but for the most part Ford has been my go to truck. On this go I wasn't too keen on a small eco boost v6 which would only get the same or worse economy than a naturally aspirated v8. I'd also like to see how the paint holds up long term on the aluminum body...I've had vehicles with aluminum panels that started shedding paint after a few years. My understanding is that paint prep is really important for aluminum since it starts oxidizing on exposure to air.

I also considered the Dodge, but I know quite a few people now that have had major engine issues with the 5.7L Hemi and I've had way too many issues with Chrysler products in general in recent history. Couldn't spring for the EcoDiesel...especially when GM is getting such great fuel economy out of a well proven v8.

Can't really go wrong with a minivan or suv either if the priority is storage out of the weather. Nice thing with most minivans is that you can take one or two 50cc to 100cc class planes inside them when you don't want to haul the trailer.
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There are a ton of good suggestions here, and there isn't one right answer.

For what it's worth, I just got a 2016 Silverado Z71 with the 5.3L V8. I believe it's rated for around 9000lbs towing. But, what has me seriously impressed is the fuel economy. Drove it from the Waterloo area to Mississauga a couple weeks ago and the average fuel economy on the way out was 8.9L/100kms! That's not exactly normal, the 401 was slow moving, but none the less awesome for an extended cab 4x4 v8 pickup. I average about 10L/100kms on my 25km commute to work, which is about half 80km/h highway and half city.

I'm not much of a brand loyal guy, but for the most part Ford has been my go to truck. On this go I wasn't too keen on a small eco boost v6 which would only get the same or worse economy than a naturally aspirated v8. I'd also like to see how the paint holds up long term on the aluminum body...I've had vehicles with aluminum panels that started shedding paint after a few years. My understanding is that paint prep is really important for aluminum since it starts oxidizing on exposure to air.

I also considered the Dodge, but I know quite a few people now that have had major engine issues with the 5.7L Hemi and I've had way too many issues with Chrysler products in general in recent history. Couldn't spring for the EcoDiesel...especially when GM is getting such great fuel economy out of a well proven v8.

Can't really go wrong with a minivan or suv either if the priority is storage out of the weather. Nice thing with most minivans is that you can take one or two 50cc to 100cc class planes inside them when you don't want to haul the trailer.
I'm driving an older gm 6.2 in a Denali pickup rated at 9300 towing and if you drive reasonable 115 kmh it will do 10.5 to 11per 100km very acceptable to me and it has been a trouble free motor so far
Towing a tandem cargo takes it upto15per 100 and a 7000lb27ft holiday trailer brings it down to 19per 100 but I don't tow much so I'm happy with it main tow is cargo trailer of planes to the field about 4 km
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[quote=cosmith;3022817]There are a ton of good suggestions here, and there isn't one right answer.

For what it's worth, I just got a 2016 Silverado Z71 with the 5.3L V8. I believe it's rated for around 9000lbs towing. But, what has me seriously impressed is the fuel economy. Drove it from the Waterloo area to Mississauga a couple weeks ago and the average fuel economy on the way out was 8.9L/100kms! That's not exactly normal, the 401 was slow moving, but none the less awesome for an extended cab 4x4 v8 pickup. I average about 10L/100kms on my 25km commute to work, which is about half 80km/h highway and half city.


Those are some good numbers.
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