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Old 02-05-2005, 09:16 AM   #1
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I've been mulling over this thought for a few months. I'm not trying to start an arguement, just maybe to start an intelligent, CIVIL discussion about this.

A few months ago I subscribed to Fly RC magazine. I'd have to say I'm rather disappointed at this magazine. It's a good magazine, if you're into ARF's. Those of you who know me, know that I'm into Scale. Though this magazine does do reports on scale airplanes, they're ARF's. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against ARF's (easy Randy!! ) I have a HAngar 9 T-34 Mentor ARF, it's great. I'm amazed at the quality of the plane and it's flying ability. I've had lots of people come up and ask that's an ARF?? This is not the premiss of this thread.

I guess the question I'm asking myself and anyone else who'd like to put in their $0.02 is:

Have all the manufacturer's done away with developing kits?? If I use the indications I get from Fly RC, that's all that is new that's coming out. In recent years alot of kit manufacturers have gone belly up (CG, Pica etc.) Is it going to come to a point where you can't get a kit?? The only thing available is an ARF or a set of plans like Nick Ziroli or Jerry Bates??

Please feel free to comment but lets not turn this into a "discussion for or against ARF's"

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Old 02-05-2005, 09:31 AM   #2
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I think it's not just FLYSRC that is reviewing mostly ARF's but all of the mags seem to be doing this. It is just the way the hobby is seemingly going. Myself, I have never bought an ARF not saying I won't in the future but to this point and 20 some planes in the basement I can't forsee it. I have more fun taking a piece of Balsa a sharp knife and a set of plans and off I go. As far as flying taste go I'm so far over the map I can't decide. Scale I like combat I'd like to try, sports plans seems to dominate at the moment and scale aerobatics is what I seem to be building at the moment. I like to think of myself as a traditionalist with an open mind.
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I don't subscribe (or generally read for that matter) any rc-related mags. Having said that, is this just another type of mag targetted towards arfs? Aren't there others that deal more with kits, sailplanes, whatever?

Just catering to a specific segment is not necessarily where the hobby is going imho.
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Old 02-05-2005, 09:59 AM   #4
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Flyrc is targeted to Arfs and small electrics. They throw the odd "Traditional" plane in for colour.

As for kits, I'm building a Midwest Extra at the moment,
kit was $500.
Covering and paint, $150.
Wheels, fuel tank, spinner and other hardware, $100.
Fiberglass upgrades $80.
With taxes, over $900.

I just bought an arf, virtually the same size and quality, with fiberglass parts, spinner, fuel tank, wheels, new price $550

You cannot consider a kit to be good value for the money anymore. In my opinion, kits and covering are way overpriced. And why the heck don't they come with spinner, fiberglass parts, fuel tank and wheels?

I love to build, but geeez!!!
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Old 02-05-2005, 10:31 AM   #5
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I agree with you Ronm.Kits are expensive by the time they are completed,but there is a sense of accomplishment and pride with a kit.Not saying you can't an ARF or an ARC and make changes and have a certain amount of pride in what you've done.They don't all have to look the same.I buy alot of ARFs but also build and for me my chest sticks out more with the plane built from a kit.

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Old 02-05-2005, 11:14 AM   #6
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Kits, ARF's, RTF, Electrics


My personal preference is kit building. However, my real desire is to fly!

Most of my knowledge for the application for different glues, soldering technics, metal work, painting, engine adjustment and how to "substitute" or make/kludge parts as needed came from a humble start with RC models back in the 60's - it has done me well over my years working as a suport technician all over the world. I've built kits, ARF's, SPAD's, rebuilt engines, reconditioned motors and even build my own digital R/C radio from kit - its a great hobby.

I enjoy the glow engines, but with the coming of good brushless motors and batteries, have started to learn and play with electrics. This not only expands my knowledge base (and I always have to learn), but I also think it prepares me for the future.

I think that in the future our leisure time will become more valuable, and simply out of necessity, will bring more and more electrics, and ARF's, to our fields, they fly well, can be recharged on the most part between 1/2 to 1 hour (just about my pitt "talk" time and with a second set of batteries I can keep flying all day). The noise level is low and does not disturb the nieghbours next to our fields, thus allowing us to keep our fields while the city developes around us.

For me personally, I will be keeping my glow engines as long as possible, but I'm learning as much as possible about electrics so I can transition if necessary.

I really don't care what the future will bring, as long as I have a flying buddy and a field!


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Old 02-05-2005, 11:19 AM   #7
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Well going back to Chris's topic.

I read a lot of the mags, if nothing else to see color schemes, see what's new for products and, of course, to pass the time. I was chatting with some buddy's at the LHS on this last week. In the last few months I've noticed that RCM has started to include kits and building again in their reviews and discussions. Even MAN had one recently. In the last year or more I hadn't seen any so I see this development as a positive trend that will hopefully continue. The British mags (e.g. RCM&E and AMI) still cater to the builder as well as the arf'er

With FLYRC I noticed when it first started out it had loads of reviews; albeit mostly arfs (remember that you can still build electric planes so that is really outside the discussion ) but there was a good variety of things covered and topics of interest. Over the last 5-6 months, I think that Chris's assesment is correct and they are following the mold of other mags and personally for myself anyway, the original value that it represented to me is fast dissappearing. (other than, of course, the great engine reviews )

Still comes down to, if we don't buy kits, why would the manufacturer sell them and advertise them in mags?

I'm certainly not into scale like Chris but I do love to build unique planes. I just think the days of "model builder mag" et al are going going gone.

Disputing it online won't go far. If you have a buddy that doesn't build, why not invite him over to work on a project and to learn? You never know where it will lead .

If you can get more people interested in the "build" aspect then the commercial viability will increase and mags/manufacturers will take notice. Until then, we make due I guess

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Aside from the cost difference betwen ARF's and KITS, there is the time factor. These days, some people are so pressed for time, an ARF might be a better alternative. Personally though, I think everyone should at least build one kit, so you get an understanding of how they are put together - so you have some knowledge when it comes to fixing.
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Old 02-05-2005, 01:00 PM   #10
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The future of rc has expanded to include arfs. I love all of it and I own as much of it as I can from small to large from gas to electric and from scratch to arfs the more the merrier. I think its great that I can buy the Fling arf glider for about 50 US throw in a few servos and a receiver and battery and in a couple of hours have a neat little glider that comes with its own high start to fool around with. Long term there is nothing like building a kit or scratch for the satisfaction.

I love to fly anything its all fun so the more avenues available to me the better. I often show up for a days flying with a half a dozen planes in the van and will sometimes even get to fly all of them more than a few times. It depends how busy I am with students.

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