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Old 05-01-2005, 08:44 AM   #11
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flying the bipe

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Go very easy on the throttle when taking off, you WILL have to correct with the rudder, watch your speed in turns, there is a lot more drag there than yuo are used too, (unless you have flown bipes) When landing carry a bit of speed till you are over the end of the runway then drop your throttle, yuhave a very nice plane there, i always wanted one Good luck with it i am sure you will be happy
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Old 05-01-2005, 09:35 AM   #12
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Looks great! You just need to mount a turbine to the bottom of the fuse and you will be like the Masters of Disaster!(awesome show btw)
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Old 05-01-2005, 09:43 AM   #13
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Are you sure this is a Dave Platt Waco and not a Pica Waco?
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Old 05-01-2005, 01:22 PM   #14
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Here's a review of the ENYA FS 60 by Peter Chinn in the June '83 RCM&E

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"Simplicate and add lightness"
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Old 05-01-2005, 08:40 PM   #15
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Ahhh thanks guys, all the help is excellent. Thanks for the review Dennis, sounds like a keeper of an engine
I know it is a Dave Platt kit because I also received the original box and plans
I sure am excited to fly this one! I do have lots of tail dragger experience but no bi plane time
Is there any one maneuver that would be considered impossible or "stupid" to see this plane do? I really want it to fly scale!
I see spins & loops and the booklet refers to flat spins as well, but rolls are not good! Stall turns would probably be ok to, no?
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Old 05-02-2005, 06:35 AM   #16
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A nice big lazy barrel roll would be scale for that aircraft.

I'd stay away from the flat spin.

Big loop would look nice. Would probably have to dive it a bit first which would be typical of that type of plane.

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Old 05-02-2005, 09:37 AM   #17
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I had occasion to do the test flights on a friend's Pica Waco powered with an old OS 60 2 stroke about 20 years ago. It flew very well with no bad habits as does my 120 four stroke powered 6' shown in my avatar. In spite of all the apparent drag, both these models have a surprisingly good glide ratio and just do not want to quit flying. Elevator control is quite sensitive and aileron control is rather mushy in spite of sealed aileron gaps. The Enya 60 FS should provide excellent scale power with a 13x6 or 14x6 prop. Fly it like a full scale and your onlookers will be impressed.
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:21 AM   #18
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I was quite shocked to read the instructions for the flat spin with no aileron use Guess I have a good reason to attend more events both RC and full scale
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:19 PM   #19
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Welcome to the Waco world!

I had the Pica 1/6th which sounds similar to the specs you provided. I flew mine on an old OS (pre-surpass) .90 and she was overpowered. She was quite comfortable putting around just above high idle. As long as she's built true and balanced, you should have no issues with her flying, the YMF is a well behaved bipe.

As is typical for most bipes, you have to fly her all the way to the ground. Control altitude with throttle, not elevator on the approach and don't 'chop' throttle until the wheels touch terra firma.

As for aerobatics, the real Waco is quite capable of most old-school basic airshow stuff but, performs them in a very lazy manner, requiring dives at the ground to build up airspeed, barely making it over the top in big open loops.

These aircraft were often used for crop dusting ( a legitimate scale maneuver specific to this type, and a lot of fun to perform). Picture high speed (relative to this type, certainly not high speed compared to a spitfire) low passes down the field terminating by pulling up to a vertical wing-over ready for the next pass over the crops... add some smoke ( especially if you can route it through tubes on the wings) to simulate pesticide spray and the fantasy is complete.

I gave away my YMF a few years ago, after she was crashed by a friend... I still dream of her "putt, putt, putting" in low over the corn at the end of the runway to a full stall landing in the first 1/3rd of the runway. I finally couldn't resist the urge to relive that experience so I'm in the last throes of building another, this time the 1/5th UMF.

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Hi Jim,
Thanks for the reply! You put a real good picture in my mind as to how I should fly this, thanks. Your new Waco looks great. Will be waiting for your maiden flights review soon.
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