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Old 06-07-2005, 08:30 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by ronnieo
who ever instructed those flyers of R/C in the 40/50/60's?...
Not even that far back my friend.

A few of us got together in the mid 70s and formed the Huintsville model club. No other clubs within a 2 hour drive, and most of us were too young to drive anyway. We started on 2 channel gliders, chuck them into a hayfield, gradually worked our way up to "slope soaring" (chucking them off a hill ) and then someone bought a high start. My first "full house" aircraft was so underpowered and overweight it refused ti fly until I removed the landing gear and throttle servo.

I still remember my best aircraft from that time was a Marks Models Mambo fitted with the centre section (polyhedral design missing the tips) of a glider wing.

No buddy boxes, not even a runway. I still remember my uncle, who was a member of the Burlington club, brought his Falcon 56 and had to take off from a tractor path where we flew at Beacom's field.
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Old 06-07-2005, 11:22 AM   #42
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I am self taught - wouldnt wish that on anyone personally, it took me 5 years to get proficient at flying, mainly due to so little time on the sticks (10 or 15 seconds at best the first 20 tries or so) btu I did get good at rebuilding planes

I think you cant generalise anyone's progress by a simple formula... its like driving. I got my learners permit and after a few days I went for my road test and passed. I know others who took driver's education, drove for over a year and still failed their test.

Liekwise, I have seen students get REALLY proficient at take offs, landings and flying in between within a dozen flights. They took it seriously, and wanted it. With the training aids today like simulators which teahc you orientation and such you can learn in less time than 10 years ago IMO.

Again, some may take longer, and some maybe will never get the hang of it (sort of like me and golf, I gave up after 7 yrs of getting worse each year).

In the end, each instructor must make the call on an individual basis - period.
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Old 06-07-2005, 02:05 PM   #43
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Randy did mentioned helis. Hmmmmmm

The big difference between today and 34 years ago when I started on helis:

We now have simulators.
We now have helis designed for training.
We now have sources of spare parts.
We now have reliable engines.
We now have reliable radio stuff and gyros.
We now have collective pitch.
We now have buddy boxes.
We now have access to qualified instructors and flying schools.
We now have access to a worldwide pool of knowledge on the internet.

Today, I would gladly drive hours to get qualified help, if I were starting over. If, for nothing else to get it trimmed out.

I was never an expert but a stubborn pioneer.

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Old 06-08-2005, 08:15 AM   #44
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Having been a witness to Don Dow's perseverance in learning to fly helicopters, I can certainly vouch for his tenacity. Several times I have seen him head back to his workshop for repairs after a 30 second or so flight. What he has not stated is that he was a proficient mode 1 fixed wing flyer and decided to teach himself to fly mode 2 and to fly helicopters at the same time. Quite an achievement.

In my own case I was turned loose after my 3rd flight flying mode 2 with my mode 1 instructor by my side giving me advice only. After about 10 days on my own I turned instructor and taught my son to fly. My original Falcon 56 still flys today as a radio test aircraft after 36 years.
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