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Old 09-08-2005, 04:34 AM   #41
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Old 09-08-2005, 08:00 PM   #42
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About time the protest starts

Well the truckers down East are starting to getting tired of these oil prices and are starting to blockade the entry points to the USA in N.B. tonight they are blocking the entrance to the Confederation bridge to PEI and have put up blockades on the highways to N.S.

Protest is needed .
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Old 09-11-2005, 11:41 PM   #43
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You just don't get it

I don't remember you guys crying when oil was $12/bbl in the early 80's and Alberta was suffering. We don't want $80 oil either. It used to be that the industry was happy with $20-25 bbl. $40 would be just great for our industry today. It's out of our hands.

It is a global market and like other commodities the price is set by the market. The per bbl price has gone up more than double in the last several years yet the pump price has not.

I don't like paying $60,000 for a truck, but because the union has secured $80,000 a year salaries for high school drop outs who put hubcaps on cars I have to.

I'm waiting for our friend to finnish his "solar car" so we can drive on sunny days for free. (don't know what we'll do at night or on cloudy days though) As I recall his Ford six gets 27 mpg while dusting off Porches. I've owned two of the darn things and they never got better than 20 mpg. My Diesel gets 13 not 9 mpg while pulling a 10000 lb fith wheel by the way. It's my choice. There wern't any 40 mpg cars 25 yrs ago. Except in lala land. As for hybrids the average driver would have to keep it 8 yrs to pay the difference in initial cost. That is when the batteries will need to be replaced. The battery pack for the Ford Escape is $15,000. Now how much did you save. I can buy a lot of diesel(ego) fuel @ $0.91/l for that.

I go to the Island and it costs $196 one way on the ferry. I don't complain. I figure it costs money to run the damn things. Especially when the lowest paid union employee at BC ferries makes $19/hr to clean tables. All the locals are upset because they think it should be free. What they mean is someone else should pay because nothing is free. Not healthcare, not daycare, not fuel, food or housing. Surely they know that.

Newsflash to all you socialists, fuel is not a birthright it is a product and why would we sell it at less than market value. The oil and gas companies are not subsidized, quite the opposite and when the next NEP comes out I hope we sepperate.

I don't get a deal on lumber, lobster or maple syrup so why should you tell us what your gas should cost. I have the choice not to purchase these things. I'd rather have Aunt Jemimah anyway.

"Help us Ottawa, help us". I don't know if you guys are paying attention but they are the most dishonest group of people to ever hold office. How about oil for food? Sounds like Canada Steamship got a little there to. For every $0.10 increase per litre Ottawa makes 2 billion per year. They're glad its up. Don't expect them to reduce their tax on it. But you all think the companies that produce it should make cuts. I can tell you have all been listening to Jack Layton again.
You get the government you deserve.

We are all going to have to live with higher prices in the short term. And that means everything has to go up that is delivered or produced with fossil fuel. I've certainly not been offered an increase in pay. I don't belong to a union nor would I so there you have it. It's going to cost me more to drive.

Yes we have more oil than Saudi Arabia but the process of recovery is very expensive and although it is improving you can't compete with countries who have flowing oil wells that produce the highest grade of crude oil very inexpensively.

Those conservatives are all from Alberta. That was a stupid remark. We have to pay more to. It will affect all Canadians. Yes Albertans pay less for gas, we make it here. Let me explain. It does not have to be delivered very far. Therefore it costs less. The highest prices are in the most remote areas. See it's not a plot to take advantage of the rest of you.

So park your cars, ride your bikes, jog, walk or crawl. It is entirely up to you. It will have little impact on the world market.
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:54 AM   #44
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Just to add insult to injury, I am presently living / working in Nunavut, 400 miles ABOVE the Arctic Circle, our price for gas here ? 98.9 per liter and that price is constant until we get our new supply in September 2006.

Come on up if you really want low gas prices, but bring your parka we are having -5C temps and a blizzard as I write this.
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Old 09-12-2005, 06:34 AM   #45
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Come on up if you really want low gas prices, but bring your parka we are having -5C temps and a blizzard as I write this.
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Old 09-12-2005, 07:59 AM   #46
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I have a question.

Would you still be peeved if the gas you were buying was 85% ethanol??
Ethanol, mostly made from corn (a renewable resource, and if all the cars ran on 85% ethanol (E85) cars would put out 40% LESS smog) Would it bother you as much if the money went to the farmers instead of the Oil Companies?? Instead of pushing HYdrogen, it would be easier to put more development money into ethanol technology than hydrogen (which still has a long way to go) Ford already makes a few cars that can run on E85, they mostly sell them in the middle US. Why not push the government to push on the ethanol, ALONG with mandating higher milage vehicles??

As far as the US standing up to the Oil Companies. Dream on.

I was talking with a chap from Cleveland a few weeks ago, about the Iraq thing. He put it this way, Iraq is not about freeing the people from a despot. When the President of the US is an oil baron, his brother is an oil baron and his father is an oil baron, it doesn't take a genius to figure it out. For GW to put the brakes of oil prices, he'd be taking money out of his own pocket.

I'm not being a neigh sayer, I didn't buy gas on Sept. 1,2,3, or 4th, cause I couldn't afford to.

I like Tylittles ideas, but i just don't have the time to ride a bike 52kms to work, I'd have to leave the house at 3am .
Its not my choice to live that far from work, its necessity, I couldn't afford a house any closer to the GTA. We little guys are stuck in the middle, we can't afford a house closer to work, so we buy farther away, we commute, there isn't any decent transit. If I have to work OT, the GO system shuts down at 6pm going to Orangeville, I'm screwed, my wife has to pack the kids up and come and get me.
I commute with co-workers when I can.

It's not just the gas prices it's a really big picture, but a break on the taxes sure would be nice!

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Old 09-12-2005, 08:36 AM   #47
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Many of us are in the same boat. The GTA transit system is overtaxed and underserviced. The ads asking me to "make the right choice" on the backs of those overcrowded, standing room only, black smoke emitting buses, combined with the fact that they don't come anywhere near my area are quite annoying.

On the up side, I was recently asked if I'd be intereted in working from home. It seems rising real estate costs (taxes being a large component) have pushed the button on the management issues with this decision.
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Old 09-16-2005, 08:38 AM   #48
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The Subway in Toronto is great if you don't need to take it during rush hour. The streetcars are ok as well. But the bus just plain sucks.... dosen't matter when you take it. It sucks! It's just far WORSE during rush hour! *shudder*

How many times have I waited and waited for a bus to come and finnaly after it's much too late three of them show up within seconds of each other. Each one of them filled past the point of standing room only!

Anyone who lives in Toronto just needs to buy a Scooter!!! Yamaha BWS cost aprox. 3 dollars to fill the tank and it'll get you accross downtown and back three times before needing to be filled again! Stick THAT in your tank and burn it!

I rode mine for three years in the city!! Awesome!

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Old 09-22-2005, 12:19 PM   #49
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Reg gas just hit $2.51 per litre here in the Toronto area

This is just outrageous!! Our so called "government" has to do something!!!

If prices are allowed to remain this high, it will bring the economy to a standstill!
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Old 09-22-2005, 12:28 PM   #50
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Holy crap!!
That explains the lineups in the Milton stations for $1.04 gas!
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