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Old 10-19-2005, 06:49 PM   #11
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controversial posts make for better reading and more importantly, more awareness

i agree my post may appear to be bias but its not unlike many threads

theres no place,like cloud base!
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Old 10-19-2005, 07:27 PM   #12
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The problem comes, generally, when peole post opinion or conjecture as if it were fact or when fact is introduced that makes a person look bad, or shows that they have been aggrssivly spinning their posts.
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Old 10-19-2005, 08:03 PM   #13
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My 2 cents.
i see these boards as an extension of the fields we fly in. You have way more people though. I love the different backgrounds, and different ideas. I may not agree with some of them, but they all belong to someone. If someone comes out to the field with a certain anything, different people will have different things to say. I use Supertigre engines generally, and I've been told at all the fields I've flown at to replace them. Why? Because of opinions.

We will all develop opinions regarding certain individuals, and we all have that right. Every place where people are there is going to be some disagreement. I think as long as it doesn't go into a big slanderous sluggfest, it's all good. Yes, topics do wander, but the people that post to them are active. If people were't active, then this forum would die.

I agree with Wayne. The person posting the question would be the one to refocus the topic in person. Unfortunately, it's hard to do in a forum such as this. It's not the moderators fault, his job is to keep things from getting totally out of hand, and his only real "control" over people is to censor or ban them. I have found posts on other forums that often refer to this one as some sort of dictatorship. I am sure that whatever action was taken to cause those feelings was done after much thought by the Moderator.

I always try to focus on the good things in everything I do. I like that I can come on here and ask any question, and usually within a day, I have at least one good explanation or suggestion. I like the fact that there are regular posters, and it has expanded my veiw of the hobby in general.

Any of the questions regarding the political or administration part of the hobby will develop a thread gauranteed to go off topic, or at least to wander. It is inevitable. If this wasn't the case, we wouldn't need to have them in our lives. I think society in general is made up of those that want more rules, those that are fine as things are, and those that don't want any. And any post regarding any change in the way MAAC is run, or clubs, or whatever will have a sampling of these people.

Bottom line for me, this hobby draws from all walks of life, and that is what really makes it interesting. It's not so much the planes I build and fly, but the different people I consult, advice and argue with.

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Old 10-19-2005, 08:28 PM   #14
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Some good points in this discussion. Very professional.

If no debate is allowed, there is never an opportunity to correct mis-information. It festers beneath the surface.

For example, Keith, on many occasions, has done an exceptional job of providing fact to debunk incorrect opinion. The recent discussion that spun off into HQ staff job descriptions was a glaring example. Keith reminded members that a study comissioned by the board on wages and job descriptions was completed, effectively ending a very negative spin and provided readers with some good fact.

Without the opportunity to debate that issue, those same incorrect opinions would still be spinning around at club level and accepted as fact. If people are posting it, they have the wrong information and that is more damaging than some open debate.

..... and it's more entertaining.

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Old 10-20-2005, 08:58 PM   #15
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Would you like a flower.

I agree with the Peej, you can't see my face either when I try to push some of your buttons. Variety is the spice of life.

In my family the opinions on politics vary a great deal and we have heated debates about different issues. At the end of it all we are still family and we get over our difference of opinion. It's actually really stimulating to hear and defend yourself against someone elses views. It makes you think.

If I wanted to be somewhere I could agree with everything everyone else said I'd join the Harri Krishnas. That is now that Waco is gone.
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Old 10-20-2005, 10:50 PM   #16
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There are always threads like the repetitive, "Did you get your MAAC Mag yet" for those who don't want to have to think too much.

Seafury points out the stimulation of debate and defense of your position. Exercise is good for the mind........keeps it pliable.

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Old 10-20-2005, 11:29 PM   #17
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'et al'

As I said... I have no issue of stating fact.... but.. when it gets personal and a mud slingng fest, then we have lost the focus of the forum.

Food for thought.
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Old 10-21-2005, 05:58 AM   #18
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One thing i noticed when it comes to heated battles..most on here are all MAAC issues

To me it would have looked better to open up the maac forum again so it moves back there and off the General RC Discussion

just a thought

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Old 10-21-2005, 06:40 AM   #19
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Disscusions would probably be more effective as far as feeling the out the opposite opinion on chat not written forums.Most modelers are modelers not creative writers.

The topic gets sidetracked when someone thinks they were slighted only to realize that there was no intent to slight anyone in the first place.

Chat being in realtime would be more effective.People can resolve issues right there and then.They would probably think twice before speeking out in a way as to not offend but to get a point accross.That doesn't seem to happen in written format.

I think this would help in keeping these forums peacful and for it's original intent of being fun.
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Old 10-21-2005, 09:53 AM   #20
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Discusions would probably be more effective as far as feeling the out the opposite opinion on chat not written forums.Most modelers are modelers not creative writers.
And some of us can barely type! In chat I would never get a word in edgewise! By the time I got a response typed, the chat thread would have changed topic three times.

Actually that may not be bad, as I would have very little opportunity to put my foot in my mouth, so to speak.
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