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Old 03-29-2006, 10:00 PM   #11
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great. i problay do not have time myself to build another planeto test the theory here in ontario, however wheni get out west and get all situated ill problay get the people out there to join in on the carnage of Corro... hevens to betcy they still use balsa out there.. Can you say balsa showers... any hoot. i just might have to try to sew the plane togeatehr that just sounds so funny. but you guy proven it does work. we have a baby scale donated to us to use in our club house now we have not tested it eather.. however my p51 A come in at just under 3lbs and id say thats pretty close...so problay its correct.. might have to get a 5 lb peice of meat to sit on the scale to measure it out...
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Old 04-02-2006, 09:10 PM   #12
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Hi All,

Found my Spad VII specs:

Span- 42in.
Wing Area- 620in.sq. 4.3ft.sq.
Weight- 4.5lbs
Wingloading- 16.7 oz/ft.sq.
Wing thickness- 5/8in.
Engine- A tired(of WW2) Mag Pro .25 that swings an APC 10-3 just above 12K.

Construction- Fuse is traditional balsa with ply reinforcing around nose/cabanes. 3/16th balsa stab,1/8th balsa fin/rudder. Pop bottle cowl from the cabanes foreward. Blue foam turtledeck sealed with a couple of coats of WPV.
Wings- blue foam with partial 1/8th.sq. spruce spars. 1/4in.sq spruce TE with balsa TE stock. 1/64 aircraft ply around centre sections. LE is 3/8th.sq. cedar hand planed to a 'D' section after gluing it to the foam cores. The foam is just sealed with a few coats of WPV.
Landing gear- 1/8th Aluminum with 3.5in Williams Bros. Vintage wheels (about 1/2 lb but it is ahead of the CG.
Finnish is clear 'neutral base' exterior latex mixed with Dollar Store Acrylic poster paints. Thinned a bit with Windshield washer fluid and brushed on in two thin coats.
Radio is 4 std. servos, std 5-600mah pack jammed as far fwd as possible. Throttle servo is under the engine.
I enlarged the tail areas a bit and moved the wings back about 1.5in. and it balanced nicely.

It flys 35-38mph at full throttle (12.5K/APC10-3) One full throttle dive downwind was clocked at 48mph.

It is tricky to takeoff in calm/crosswind conditions. (I'm still playing around with the LG geometry) Into a breeze it takes off by itself. It lands and taxiis very well.

I like flying it. I have about 75 flights including over 20 rounds of combat.

I'm building an Ansaldo SVA-1 next. It will be 44in. span with more wing area, hopefully under 4lbs.

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Old 04-07-2006, 07:55 AM   #13
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Been doing a little more thinking on the WWI rules. Assuming the present rules stay more or less the way the are, we have to do more to attract new pilots.

What if we allow people to fly "observation" or "reconnaissance" during the rounds. They would tow a white streamer and be untouchable. Just fly around out of the fray, practice some manouvers and formation flying, just have fun. Points would still be awarded for: take-off, landing, flying full round, etc. and subtracted for non-engagement. It's a great way to gain confidence and a good pilot can still do well in the scoring. All the stress of being chased is gone and the risk of damaging their airplane is low.

Also, I'd like to see WWI recon flown with any kind of airplane from that period; monoplane, bomber, multi-engine, balloon...you name it!
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:39 PM   #14
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I like to think that there are no secrets among the combat fraternity. A form something like this sums things up pretty well. We can add more info if you have any ideas. If everyone posts on a dedicated thread the info will be useful for people interested in getting into WWI combat.

WWI combat model specs.

Model Type______________________________________________ _____

Documentation / Plan___________________________________________

Pilot / Email_____________________________________________ ______

Weight_____________Max Speed____________Min Speed____________

Engine____________Propeller___________Fuel tank size______________

Servos (size and number)_______________________________________

Battery (size and location)_______________________________________

Nose Weight?___________________________________________ _______

Fuselage Construction______________________________________ _____
__________________________________________________ ___________
__________________________________________________ ___________
__________________________________________________ ___________

Wingspan Top____________Bottom_______________Center________ ___

Wing Chord Top__________Bottom_______________Center__________ _

Thickness Top____________Bottom_______________Center________ ___

Total Wing Area___________________Wingloading________________ ___
Wing Construction______________________________________ ________
__________________________________________________ __________
__________________________________________________ __________

Performance - Rate from 1 (poorest) to 10 (best)_____Stall___________
Taxi / Take-off (calm)__________Taxi / Take-off (crosswind)__________
Climb________Level Flight Slow_________Level Flight Fast____________
Steep Turn_________Loop_________Roll___________Landing__ _______
Flying Notes_____________________________________________ ______
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________
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Old 04-07-2006, 07:21 PM   #15
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Can you make that into an excel spreadsheet and post it on the new thread as an attachment please? People can d/l it, fill it in and re attach to their post and I can compile it into a database.
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Old 04-08-2006, 01:59 PM   #16
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Now this is what I call constructive NO bickering JUST IDEAS. great keep them comming
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