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Old 06-04-2006, 12:32 PM   #11
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At HVRCF we are discussing making a heliport in an area well behind and to the east of our current flight line.

For now its just a concept and may get to the trial stage for this flying season, and if it goes well we may put it to a member vote at next fall's meeting.
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We have had a hovering area well to the side of the runway. It is the general understanding this is only for hovering. If you want to do some flying then that is what the flight line is for.
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At Ajax, we kind of work together. We have a separate area for folks learning to hover; away from everyone. Once they learn forward flight, they use the standard flight line.

When heli folks want to do other things, folks just kind of sit down and watch and let them use the flight line. I've yet to see a conflict between the plane and heli guys. Mutual respect and co-operation, has let all means of flying work at our club for at least the last 6 years.
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Old 06-04-2006, 04:08 PM   #14
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Just wondering where or how do your guys learn forward flight so they can use the flightline. At our club, for just hovering, there seems to be a common sense understanding that you take either the far right or left pilot station and as soon as a plane pilot calls "landing", you land close in, hit throttle hold until the plane has landed and is off the flightline. This works well with both heli and plane pilot respecting each others different needs.

With myself and a couple others trying to move into forward I'd like to know how the Ajax club or any other clubs handle heli pilots learning forward flight.

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Our club has two intersecting runways, one large main runway and one small stub. The pits are situated in one corner of the intersection. Pilot stations are positioned along both runways. The stub is used for hovering and small electrics when the main field is in use. The main runway is used for large aircraft and heli forward flight/stunts (once we get good enough ).

We work together, with mutual respect, and no one hogs. We have a smaller club and that probably helps.

In these days of field encroachment and noise complaints, we don't need an excuse to drive away members. We need all the support we can get. Besides, our members fly all sorts of aircraft - if we started excluding any of them we would quickly alienate everyone. The field is precious and requires support and cooperation of everyone.

The fastest growing segment is smaller electrics - due to their reduced noise and small space requirements, there's less reason to use a field. We want to encourage people to use the field, enjoy the social benefits and build our club. We want to make the field a common place, the center of our club.
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Hi Dave,

I call in a "hover" area but really it's a heli training area. The idea was not to have someone learning to hover in the middle of the runway. Learning very basic movements is done there. With progression to forward flight, the would use the flight line

Sorry I wasn't clear

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what a great reply..100% right on.
if a club excludes any modeler or a member for type of aircraft..they
should not be able to have a MAAC
MAAC is open to all modelers, period..
this crap has been going on as long as i can remember..it all started in 1972 for me...anyone remember the dubro 500 ?? KB 40 mounted on top of rotor head.
all club since then have learned to get along and work together..
no problems for clubs....only for some peoples attitudes..they were the ones that jst sat around and dint fly anyway..
check ot flying tigers field if you want to see a class operation..
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Old 06-05-2006, 08:28 PM   #18
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Our club has just recently modified our rules to allow helicopters to fly with fixed wing stuff. The two obnoxious members who prompted me to segregate the fixed wings and helicopters have long since left the club.

Fortunately we only have forty members. What usually happens is when a helicopter is flying the fixed wingers hold back and vice versa with the chopper guys. When some one is under training or going for a maiden flight we all hold back and take turns.

I fly early in the morning or late in the afternoon if necessary. I also gauge the intervals between others not flying and grab the opportunity when available and don't do extended flights. I announce “on the field for ten” and cross to the other side to do my stuff. No problem with other members. Of course they enjoy the sight, smell and sound of turbines.

I have found that once a person gets his first flight in there is no longer a blinding desire to do the next flight and they are then prepared to space out and share the flying time. The fellow members will monitor who hasn’t flown and ensure we all get equal time.

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Old 06-05-2006, 10:27 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by JKovats
Our club has taken a firm stand on this, and because of it we only have one guy with a heli. He sort of snuck in by telling us he was a fixed wing pilot. We basically are a "fixed wing club" and don't keep it a secret.

Since we follow MAAC Safety guidlines so that we don't jeopardize our insurance, we understand that the flight line is a straight line, ours is 30' from the flight stations. So the heli (s) have to start there.

As soon as a second airborne vehicle takes off, all planes must fly a circuit, and that includes the helicopters. They don't like it, they don't join our club. Our current membership is really geared to fixed wing and we want to keep it that way.
Circuts Wheres the fun in that? You guys do areobatics or 3d in the club or ...

Anyway i must say good topic

I usually wait for the feild to be clear b4 taking my heli out

even flying it with another helli in the air too is tricky as you never know where he is and we both share the same hover zone.

in the hoverzone (runway ahead of flightline and 0-10 feet up) is where all the fixed wing take off ,land and fly by.

Try not to take too many chances and stick to the rules.

besisdes its more peacefull flying alone with the helli kind of?

The best idea is to have 2 runways that cross eachother helli on one runway while the planes use the other. thats how my feild is set up.
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This a great thread. Positive with good ideas. So the general consensus is once a heli pilot has moved to forward flight he/she should move to the main flightline where only one flightline exists? This is what I thought was the correct way to go. At our club we do have a great area behind and away for hovering. unfortunately some of the "circuit" flyers seem to get disgruntled with other forms or styles of flying.

I will be president of my club next year and plan on integrating flying styles/ helis more into the mainstream. So far we have a policy of common sense, while this works for most, some of the old timers (but not all!) are set in their ways. I like these old grumpy dudes allot but changes must be made.

My plan is 3d foamies and new heli pilots in one area and the rest of the malay on the flightline
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