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Old 06-12-2006, 10:40 PM   #1
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A gripe about sellers

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I don't know how many items in the classifieds I've seen lately that I read the title and I think "WOW!! That sounds really cool, I'd love to have one of those" I read the ad and think again "WOW, I really am interested" Read the price and "WOW, what a great price" and then read:

"To big to ship, local pickup only"

Come off it!!!!! Shipping large items is not a big deal. If the buyer is willing to pay for the cost of crating and shipping then why not ship it? Anything up to an 80" span can easily be shipped Greyhound. If it's bigger than that DHL surface can take it. It really isn't that hard to ship items. Some ad's of stuff in the original kit boxes read "local pickup only" as well. That annoys me bigtime since they all get shipped at some point to get to either the hobby store or the person selling it.

I've shipped some VERY large items. A BVM F-16 to california, the crate measured 80" long, 24" tall, and 55" wide. A Trim aircraft Spectre, box measured 80" long, 24" tall and 24" wide. My Skymaster Gripen, box was HUGE, something like 92" long, 48" wide and 24" tall. An Airmagic F15 that was about 72" long, 36" wide and 20" tall.
Sure I had to build crates, cost me like $80 in materials and a couple hours of my time, but when the buyer is paying for the materials, if I really want to sell it I'm willing to spend a couple hours to build a crate.

What really kills me is when a seller has their item listed as pickup only, and 3 weeks down the road they're saying "somebody must want this item". Sure, they probably do, but they might live on the other side of the country.

Now before somebody jumps on me and says something like "most buyers won't want to spend $150 on shipping on a $200 telemaster" You're right, they probably won't, and in that case I suppose I can see it. But I'm talking about airplanes in the $1000 and up range. They are more specialized so you are automatically appealing to a more limited market. Then in some cases I'm talking about kits that maybe are only worth $150, but it would only cost $15 to send it on greyhound because it's in the original box.

So, my reason for this post is I want to know, what is the reason for not shipping expensive models that are larger? I've had tons of stuff shipped that was large, and shipped out lots of stuff as well, I have never had a problem with shipping the items, so why not ship it?
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Old 06-12-2006, 10:48 PM   #2
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...and worse yet...."for pickup only"....and they don't give a location!!!!!

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Old 06-12-2006, 10:55 PM   #3
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I have never sold a large item so maybe I am talking out of my hat but, I know for me, if I had a large plane for sale and someone offered me money for the materials to ship it I would be happy to do so. However my free time is in short supply and my honey do list around the house is long. I am not sure I would want to take the time needed to build a crate and pack the plane in it. I would prefer a local sale first. If that failed then open the door to shipping it nationwide.

Just a thought.
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One of our club members just received a 30% Edge. From Quebec I believe. I almost fell over when he told me. I'm so used to seeing "local pick up only" I don't even entertain the thought of getting anything of size second hand unless it's within a couple hours.

I think people are scared to build a crate, it's not just the time spent, it's the risk in not building it good enough, and having the plane get damaged in transit. We all know or at least suspect that goods get "mishandled" when shipped, but providing the goods are packed well, there should not be any troubles.

The member that got the afore mentioned Edge said that it came literally ready to fly. The only damage was the spinner. It was carbon fiber, so it was an expensive "ding", but all in all, I think he got a bargain.
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What I really like is "for pickup in the greater TO area"
It actully took me a while to figure out what the greater TO area was
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Originally Posted by hillmanr2
What I really like is "for pickup in the greater TO area"
It actully took me a while to figure out what the greater TO area was
Used to be I could pick-up in the greater TO area....now I can pick up in the Lower Mainland area! (where the heck is that?? you say!)
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not shipping

3 main reasons for me to sell local are:

don't want to put time and effort into building a crate.

Don't want to risk shipping damage to the aircraft and then have to grapple with the shipping company over liability.

Want to make sure that the buyer has an opportunity to inspect the aircraft before purchase and is totaly satisfied that the condition is as stated. Your idea of pristine and my idea of pristine may not be the same.

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People bitching becasue someone doesnt want to ship

I have seen it all
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Originally Posted by Randy Brown
People bitching becasue someone doesnt want to ship

I have seen it all
,its a serious issue ,,crating etc really cuts into your computer time

theres no place,like cloud base!
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My main reason for not shipping big items is because I can't be bothered to build a crate. Also, I would rather the person saw the item before paying. Not that I would intentionally mislead anyone, but everyone has a different opinion of what "good condition" is and what "lightly used" means. For some people $500.00 is their whole life savings and I would be nervous to sell them a plane because when they throw their whole bank roll down, they would expect more from the item than someone that looks at this as "only" $500.00.

just my opinion...
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