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Old 12-31-2006, 02:47 PM   #1
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Just wondering what you guys thought about ARF"S.Thinking about building a plane and can't make up my mind about ARF"S. They have come a long way and You would have a hard time building a kit for the price of an Arf.
eg. Dalton Extra or Carden Extra approx 1200$ plus covering,paint,ext!
Will probably run you about 2000$ for airframe.

Wildhare Extra 41% 1250-1550 depending on which one you choose.
for airframe.
This is approx but you get my point.I really like building but those hundreds of hours building could be spent with the family, book or even on the computer.
The quality is becoming so good it really doesn't make much sense to build your own plane from a kit anymore?
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Old 12-31-2006, 03:53 PM   #2
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ARF or not

That's the delema I went through a few years ago and I decided that ARF's better suited my lifestyle. Quality is hit and miss but as long as you buy name brand ARF's, my experience is that the manufacturer / distributor will support their products. From a cost perspective, ARFs represent much better value. 8 out of my last 10 airplane purchases have been ARFs.
At some point in the future, when I have more spare time, I'm sure I'll build another kit (if they're available).
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Old 12-31-2006, 04:03 PM   #3
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Hi Ken
I got my wings on an ARF , While I was building my LT-40 , infact I had to build it twice . I like flying , but I love building , and when you put the two to-gether WoW Oh WoW . I like to believed that I am a creative person . After building kits I want to modify the kits and after that I want to build my own kits and after that something youve never seen , maybe . Its just inportant that we all have fun

Somepeople don t have the time to build , but there great flyers and thats OK , I don t think that it has anything to do with money . To-day it s just part of the hobby 20yrs ago we didn t have to internet , would I of loved it then . Its much better now . Its all about what a person wants to do , don t you think ?

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Old 12-31-2006, 04:12 PM   #4
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Personally for larger planes like you were talking about I think it would be very hard to beat the value in ARF's. You can't build one for that price. Definately go with a name brand arf, and do lots of looking because there are ALOT of different options.

I think it also depends on the person, I mean if you like building then go for it. I myself can't see me ever building a plane. I don't have the patience to do it, however I do like finishing the assembly on arfs.

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Old 12-31-2006, 04:13 PM   #5
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I agree guys,

I luv to build but, it makes no sense to build a giant aerobatic plane anymore.

I spent well over a year building my last 35% Carden, don't know how many hours were put into it. Lot's of $ too. If it get's whacked, I'll run out and buy a big ARF and have it flying in 3 days

The finish on ARF's is still not what I consider high quality but, the trade off is months or years building a pro level ship with perfect finish vs spending your time flying the thing. If you can live with a few rough spots under the covering, couple of messy glue joints, the arf is the way to go. And they are improving all the time.

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Old 12-31-2006, 08:44 PM   #6
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Everyone has given you exellent advice not much that I can add.
I love to build and I love to fly. I have planes to fly while I build. I will admit at one time I turned my nose to Arf's but look at them now. WOW!! If that's what fits your life style then the more power to you.
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Old 12-31-2006, 09:40 PM   #7
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To arf or not to arf, that is the question ...

The good thing about it Ken, we now have a choice, and quality isn't compromised.
I suppose if I was loaded, I'd buy one of those Krill jobs and hire a master builder to do it for me. Sigh ...
Do your homework and find the plane that meets your criteria.
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Old 12-31-2006, 11:25 PM   #8
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Ya if i had the money I would buy that Krill 39% too. What an awesome plane. Saw Glezellis fly it at the 06 Nall. It was amazing. I'm sure the man at the sticks probably made a differenc too though, lol.
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Old 12-31-2006, 11:46 PM   #9
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If you're "thinking about building a plane", then how does an ARF even enter the equation?????
That's not building a plane at all... building is building... assembling something someone else built is an ARF.
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Old 01-01-2007, 12:30 PM   #10
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Ken asked a question and throughout your comments you pretty much answered it yourself.

I purchased an 85" Aeroworks Extra 260 ARF and the quality of this plane just blew me away. If this ARF was any more complete they would have to change the designation to RTF. Everything was preassembled at the factory, I mean everything.....Cowel, canopy, wings, tail group...all predrilled so that all I have to do is assemble measuring and guessing where to mount the cowl, Its been pre done to exactly match my DA50 engine. They even provide standoff extentions to perfectly mount the engine to the face of the cowel.

And I have never purchased a plane before this one that comes with large pieces of covering material, every colour used on the plane as this one does.

There is absolutely NO WAY I could have purchased a kit, bought all the supporting materials and parts, and build it this reasonably priced with such a minimal amount of time spent!!!

Don't get me wrong, I love building whether scratch or from a kit, but how the heck do you justify spending so much more money and the dozens of hours of time building when an ARF with such quality can be up and flying in just a few short days? (actually, hours these days )!

I still have a couple of projects that I will be building from scratch, but there are no kits or ARF's for these planes.

My only peeve with ARF's - very little selection as to colour scheme! I would like to see more quality ARC's available.

So.....your choice my friend....choose well and most importantly..enjoy!!
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