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Old 01-17-2007, 08:16 PM   #11
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It has been many years since I've seen Ambroid, but I don't really miss it since I went to Carpenter's glue. I guess I'm not in a big hurry any more...
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Old 01-17-2007, 09:05 PM   #12
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Applehoney and Tlyttle.

I know both of you guy's are old school. I mean this in the most respectful way.

How many airplane kits (I mean kit's of cut wood, not the ARF's) even mention Ambroid, or Carpenters glue for that matter. All you see in the instructions is CA and 5 or 30 minute epoxy.

How long as CA been around, and how well was it received? I'm not meaning to take the thread off track, I'm just looking at the tides of change sort of angle.
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Old 01-17-2007, 10:41 PM   #13
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>How long as CA been around, and how well was it received?

As far as I can recall CA came into use around the Vietnam war era as a quick way to close wounds or surgical incisions. In modelling, Bill and Bob Hunter popularised it with their 'Hot Stuff' which, I think, was initially a faster-setting, stronger product than present day CAs.

The stuff is now used pretty much universally but it has its faults ... many are allergic to it, supposed to be deleterious to the lungs, possibly neural problems, releases cyanide if heated .. all of which is emphatically denied by those who manufacture and/or market it but I've seen, in the past, some interesting technical reports on the Web which urge caution.

I soon quit using it years ago - one whiff and I had an intense sneezing, running 'cold' for a week thereafter... won't have it in the house since. It's also a quite heavy adhesive and joints can be brittle; for me all the drawbacks outweigh any small speed advantage but that's just a personal and physiological thing.
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Old 01-18-2007, 01:08 AM   #14
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I remember in the 60's asking for "Hot Stuff" for Christmas.....I got a hot glue gun, and pretended it was what I wanted, because I didn't want to hurt my parents feelings.
Shortly after, I got some CA, and have never looked back....but always used adequete ventilation!!!
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Old 01-18-2007, 08:59 AM   #15
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I could not find any coverall this past week. I tried 4 or 5 different places, and they were all out. I was alarmed by that. It appears that someone else is also using it. Coincidentally, I had a tough time finding precut CA hinges. Dope as well. I had to order it in.

I imagine there was a time when every self respecting hobby shop had Coverall, silkspan, tissue, a full stock of dope (no Monokote), cases of ambroid (not the shelves of CA like today), and all the control line stuff you could need.

Did the hobby shops carry tubes to build your own radios back then? Or were they in a kit of some sort? All I ever see now are the ARF radios. I find it very ironic that I had to use the internet to find this info . These are out of production as well. Kraft is too.

While we're talking about alarming news. My knife rolled off my table the other day, I jumped back in alarm. Thankfully it didn't hit my foot.
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Old 01-20-2007, 09:10 AM   #16
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The kit market has to preyyt tough these days. Every hobbyshop I have been in has a few kits in the corner under lots of dust. Kits will be gone very soon. Even ARF's are starting to be replaced by RTF models(I guess no one wants to glue the wing together and mount some servos). When I got back in the hobby the ARF's I remember were the old 10 pound lanier foam covered in plasic type. After I saw what was out there I was amazed and tosed out the old tube of Ambroid. No more kits for me. If I want to be different I buy an ARF remove the covering and be creative.
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We found out why kits are getting scarce. This is what we've done to help solve the problem, at least locally.
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