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Old 01-31-2007, 06:57 AM   #11
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Hey Roddy ,so what is the matter with doing both. There are quite a few on here that love to build some even have building threads on here. Oh so you think an arf is easy and quick , well there are some on here that will disagree with that too. Check out scaleguy's thread on building his YAK I believe he has been at it for around a year,and that is not a dig at him for being slow.Check out Big John he just started a Hanger 9 arf his first . These planes are massed produced to get you in the air reasonably fast no saying you can't make them better . Its this BETTER part that takes the time and planning and ending up with a plane you are proud of
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:17 AM   #12
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Welcome back Roddy,

Yes, there are still many builders among us. Yes, kits are getting harder to find. It had to happen, there will always be more fools with money than craftsmen with skill.
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:17 AM   #13
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I have been in the hobby about ten years and have certainly set no records at either building or flying. I had a V-mar Extra that was my first plane that was reasonably aerobatic. It taught me a lot at low cost, most guys say they are junk but, how long do you want them to last?? It does not matter what you spend in dollars. The value in this hobby is the fun at the field. I admire the fabulous builders with their marvelous scale renderings and the guys with their huge aerobats who attend all the contests. The backbone is still those liitle groups of guys who attend the club field whenever they can and fly whatever they have. Part of the deal is you can do whatever you want in the hobby. I am building my first real scale plane right noe, a Proctor WW1 Nieupost 11. It is a slow process but I am enjoying it. If an ARF gets you flying and grabs you into the hobby I say mission accomplished. There sure are some good ones out there now. There are many I could never duplicate without spending a lot more money and assembling an ARF is still an exercise in construction that allows newbies to decide which way to go as they progress. I hope to be more active this summer now that I have retired and I'll fly any of my various planes and have fun with all of them.....
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Old 01-31-2007, 08:11 AM   #14
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Hi Roddy,

Welcome back to RC and welcome to RC Canada.

I agree there are alot of ARF's out there and it tends to get a bit boring. Same airplane, same paint job etc. etc.

There are alot of kit manufacturers out there still, but they are having a tough go of it. In a society of microwave dinners, downloaded movies, music everybody wants things fast, fast, fast! Alot of people point to lack of time (boy, I can relate), it's also patience, I want it now!! There are some special reasons also. Don't get me wrong, I've got nothing against ARF's I've got one too (I wanted it NOW!!) But I also build almost exclusively from plans now (see float plans section for my latest project) There are lots of plans designers Jerry Bates, Nick Ziroli, Brian Taylor, Vance Mosher (Vancouver Vanguard), Jim Pepino, Pat McCurry and many more who have plans for a wide variety of subjects . And there are many kit cutters out there that will either have in stock (Precision Cut Kits) or can cut a full or short kit for you.

Hope all this hot air helps you settle from your rant.

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Old 01-31-2007, 10:28 AM   #15
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Hi again guys. Thanks for all the welcome backs. As to what I'm going to build, well I went through the attic and found a barley started Great Planes cub. Which I plan to use as my beater and winter flyer. I also found my Great planes Mustang taht was my fist attempt at scale. I fully sheeted the wing and fuse, then covered it with Sig Coverall, then paited it with British markings. It has never been in the air, th engine has not even been started. It will not be at the field until my skills are back to when I stopped flying. So I have enough to keep me happy ( and my wife happy, Hunting and Fishing seasons being over) for a while.
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Old 01-31-2007, 08:34 PM   #16
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Welcome back, Roddy...

I would be a hypocrite if I had bad things to say about ARFs. When I started the hobby decades ago, I thrived on Walker's ARFs, from the Fighter 74s, to the folding wing catapults, to a Firebaby for control line. Wonderful stuff, lost more than my share.

I don't have many kits (mostly old ones), as I now scratchbuild, mostly from my own plans. I am also no longer in a hurry, and ARFs are redundant to me by design. Do I still crash? Absolutely! So I just drag out another model (time in the hobby makes sure there is always another one!) and get on with it.

If you look at it, GWS is this generation's Jim Walker...
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:59 PM   #17
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Hey Roddy don't get turned off by all the yipping about who has the biggest baddest shiniest newest most expensive radio, kit arf or what ever its all just hot air in the end. Guys are either pulling your chain or they are so full of themselves they have to continually tell everyone just how good they are.

Truth of the mater is when you show up a a club with what ever you have chosen to fly most if not all will not care so long as you fly safe. respect others and have fun. I have personally watched guys who easily have a net worth I can only envy fiddle most of the afternoon away helping some new guy get his $150 dollar bargain into the air. Those modelers who look down their noses at what others choose to fly really need to get a life. This is your hobby and it is what you wish to make of it.

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Old 02-01-2007, 01:18 AM   #18
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Gary and everyone.

I did not mean my comment as a deragotory one in the least. 99% of the people ARE wonderful. A percentage have no interest in building, and just want to fly, and we all have to have money to participate.

My tongue was so planted in my cheek that it kinda hurt.

ARF's are cheaper (in $$) overall from a kit. Kit's are expensive by the time you add up all the junk.

My first trip to the club I'm in now was very intimidating for me. I show up, my beat up planes in the truck (they were kit built, 8 years old, and VERY rough shape. There are 2 guy's there. Their planes looked flawless. Finishes were beautiful. Not a wrinkle, lots of trim on the plane. I was immediately intimidated. I thought these guy's were master builders, and I was going to be ashamed to have them even see my planes. I started talking to them, then decided I just had to fly. So out come my planes. Both of them looked over my planes, and made nice comments. I said something about how my finishing wasn't up to their skills, and they both burst out laughing. The one guy had only ever kit built one plane. The other had a few under his belt, but both of the planes they had there turned out to be ARF's.

I now proudly drag out my creations, wether it's an ARF, a bashed ARF, a kit, or whatever. Most of the guy's will admire anothers work to some extent, and whenever I do come across someone that is better than me, I listen to what they have to say. I do alot of listening
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