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Old 04-25-2008, 02:29 PM   #41
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This sux man. I am in Edmonton and I don't have any desire to fly anymore. You can't even do anything in the hobby without an hour of BS first. I am going to find something else to do.
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Old 04-25-2008, 03:49 PM   #42
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When I first started this hadn't come to a head yet so it was pretty fun. I agree that it really sucks now but I plan on going on. I'm not going to let this stop me from doing what I've wanted to do since I was 16.

I refuse to allow a few people ruin this for me... I plan on flying heli's for a long time.
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Old 04-25-2008, 04:35 PM   #43
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Guys this will pass. I have been flying helis for a very long time. While i dont live in edmonton I have witnessed the explosion of interest that has occured in edm. I just think while club issues come and go like anything else edmonton was blessed and cursed at the same time. The club there has been a hot spot for helicopters in the last 5 years. No where else in alberta has the hobby grown so fast and been embraced by so many people. The hobby has also changed from when I first started.

We are seeing a lot more commercialism in our hobby and thats something that isnt going to go away and it does have its benefits as well as its draw backs. Whats important is you find people that are friendly and helpful and try and ignore some of the other stuff cause in due time it will taper off. That crew in edmonton is extremely helpful and PASSIONATE about the hobby its just too bad you new people are caught in the crossfire. I am sure that things will get back on track shortly and it will again be about the hobby and LESS about politics. I say less because with any organization that subject will always come up. Just find a few like minded people that share the same interest and keep things as they were meant to be... a kick ass hobby where we can escape the daily bs.

Lets keep it man vs machine like it should be cause everyone that flys knows control is just an illusion. Having fun and staying safe doing it should be what we focus on.
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Old 04-25-2008, 05:30 PM   #44
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Very well said Harb, and very encouraging with positive tone!
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Old 04-26-2008, 07:10 PM   #45
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Hey Mike, I'm not bashing ERCHA here but I got kicked out the other day. Apparently ERCHA had a vote in March and voted me out. I received a $65 check from them, stating the members of ERCHA had a vote and I my membership was revoked! I wasn't invited or told about it! What can you say, there some weird guys over there.

I have no hard feeling because I want to learn from the best and hopefully I can get that from AREA 51.

Well anyway, just wanted to say hi mate.

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Old 04-27-2008, 07:01 AM   #46
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This sux man. I am in Edmonton and I don't have any desire to fly anymore. You can't even do anything in the hobby without an hour of BS first. I am going to find something else to do.
edoc, hang in there!

If you've had it up to your eyeballs with all the BS and snipe-counter-snipe, may I make one suggestion?

Find a bunch (about a half-dozen is enough) of other guys who'd rather not be assicated with either group and start your own club? slyder011 and Radix might be willing to hook in.

The half-dozen is MAAC members so that you can become a MAAC-registered club, and your Zone Director can help you through the process.

Setting up a club constitution is pretty easy. Take a look at a web-site the "Moraine Flyers".
Theperson who set up the web-page had gone through a lot of what's been happening out your way and sat down and thought out how to minimize the impacts. I know the story behind this web-site because I got asked to review it and to kick in ideas. The idea was to just vent and if a new club got started because of it, fine! If not, I'm fine!

Next step would be to quietly approach the Town or region and see if there is a large field that could be used (I guess something about the size of a soccerfield or baselball diamond without a lot of development nearby or planned for the immediate future. Access, parking and a flat area for the pits and flight line (about one half of an acre for everything.) Look at the mistakes made by both parties and make sure that they aren't repeated (no written permission from owner, and setting up inside the 4KM zone) -- I'd suggest at least a 90-degree seperation from the other clubs, if not the other end of town.

Also, check out the Provincial government for peroperties or facilities that can be used.

You can check here to see success stories and contact the involved clubs for ideas.

Easiest way of seeing if there's any interest is to post a "let's start a new heli club in Edmonton" and see if there's enough interest.

Basic rules are simple:
1. MAAC Safety Code and Policies will apply in all situations.

2. Do not spoil other people’s fun unless this “fun” violates Rule #1.

3. Have as much fun as Rules #1 and #2 permit.

and in your case:
4. No politics.

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Old 04-27-2008, 12:57 PM   #47
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Well said Byro! Club success in a nutshell!
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Closing this thread. This is something the clubs in question should deal with in person.

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