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Old 08-19-2008, 12:08 PM   #11
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I think Ed got it bang on...and if you need an umbrella to fly then there is no way you should be flying!
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:11 PM   #12
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Good day Gents,

While I don't know Ed from adam, He did get his point across very well and had be posted something more "Politically" correct, you or I, might have not have given it a second look. I

I for one miss the days when you just got your A$$ kicked if you made a mistake, you would learn from it and then move on. The photographer did his job, I would have thought the editors of the magazine would recognize a hazardous condition and think twice about publishing it as an example. Doesn't mean we have to follow it, goes to that "If your friend jumped of the bridge" would you? The good news is someone noticed it and took the time to comment. I personnally don't fly in the rain, but I am a bit of a sissy..:0)

PS: I can understand why some take offecnce to his comments, no one likes to be called an idiot, but I believe we all take a turn at it to a degree from time to time... some just like to but in line.:0)

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Old 08-19-2008, 01:53 PM   #13
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I gave a lot of thought to my post. I meant every word of it. I make no apologies and will make no retractions.

Others should think before they type. We had Mr Clarke claiming that umbrellas and ponchos were used to keep transmitters dry whilst flying, as shown in the pictures. 'V6Goose" claimed that there was no rain during flying periods. These two notables should have got together and got the stories straight. After all THEY WERE THERE!

Richards plea for safety and the danger of flying in inclement weather in the "President's Report" was totaly justified. I sincerely hope he wrote that after he attended the event and was desperately trying to get a point across. If he wrote it before and his presence condoned the activity, his words are meaningless.

I have competed in many contests, too numerous to count. These include local events, Canadian National Championships, American National Championships and six World Championships in other countries. They all had one thing in common. Without exception, without question, when the rain started the flying stopped. It is that simple.

Well, it is that simple to those of us who do more than pay just lip service to safety.

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Old 08-19-2008, 02:47 PM   #14
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i agree with you Ed. Safty before all else. Put on a show during the rain adds fuel to the fire. The pilots may feel confident they can do it but there IS without question an ADDED risk flying in the rain. I don't care if they waterproof their radio or electronics. Planes can be rebuilt, people aren't so easy to rebuild.

I believe 110% if weather isn't good, don't fly it wont kill you to sit back and let it pass or wait another day. Save your plane and you did your part for the added safty of the people watching!

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Old 08-20-2008, 09:47 AM   #15
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He was just trying something new Something like this:

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Old 08-20-2008, 03:42 PM   #16
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Hey Ed, you are absolutely 100% right on. It's too bad political correctness is more important than the big picture. Thanks for not fluffing it up. You have nothing to appologise for. Walking the walk and talking the talk are two different things. We here about safety, safety, safety, but it is meaningless without enforcement. Both at a National and Local club level. Don't appeal to common sense, because it's not that common.

It is also a fact, that what appears to be the truth, usually is the truthe to the perceiver. People see pictures and read articles. This is not the first time the "maac" magasine, and whoever at maac approved it for publication, showed poor judgement and allowed it to go to press without review. I refer back to the hovering pictures with a pilot beside the plane, not beside the safety barriers, in prior publications.

A couple years ago I cautioned MAAC on some of this stuff and cautioned them about insurers "perception" of the risk they are carrying. Since 9/11, insurers review all aspects of the risks they carry.

Don't anyone be surprised if inj the near future, MAAC can't: 1) find a carrier for the memberships liability coverage, or 2) have the premiums triple and/or 3) have premiums double or triple and have a 10,000 or $25,000 deductible that clubs/maac/or members may be responsible for in the event of a claim.

It will get to this if there are not some serious changes shortly.

Back to flying in the rain. Can you spell lightning?
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Old 08-20-2008, 04:09 PM   #17
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If you were required to pass an exam on the MAAC Safety Code there could be some very embarassed individuals.
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\American National Championships and six World Championships in other countries. They all had one thing in common. Without exception, without question, when the rain started the flying stopped. It is that simple.

Ed S
Ed, you F3D guys are sissies! They make us F3A guys fly in the rain at the US Nats and Worlds!!!
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What did every one do before MAAC coverage. ?????
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What did every one do before MAAC coverage. ?????
They probably spent more time flying because they didn't have discussion forums to discuss life's most important issues......i.e. safety and MAAC.
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