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Old 09-11-2009, 04:40 PM   #11
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Re: Reneging is unacceptable

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I emailed a Canadian hobby shop for price and availability on some part
They answered both
I phoned and ordered using Mastercard, mentioned emails, thanking them...
Merch failed to arrive
No charge to my card
Yes, emails and phone call, they didn't bother to put the sale through
Emailed again they shipped it (after phoning me), free shipping (about $2 but nice gesture)

Yes, they advertise here, Yes I have bought from them before and will buy from them again.
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Old 09-11-2009, 04:50 PM   #12
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Re: Reneging is unacceptable

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As petty as the complaint may be viewed, the sinario was exactly this. There was A REAL agreement on price,shipping and payment menthod. Three email exchanges to verify money tranfer and Only A stroke of the enter key away to send. It doesn't get much closer to a done deal than that. And for those of you that disagree, Do me and others a favor and step forward so we know who we should and shouldn't do dealings with. Time is valueble, I could of been flying longer today had I not taken the time to defend core principals.
I agree.

To argue that it also happens to the seller is baseless. It shouldn't happen at all. Two wrongs don't make a "right".

In this case, the buyer's time was wasted. Perhaps he could have found another deal elsewhere if he wasn't honourably committed to this contract.

His original post, pointing out the need for honesty and honour amongst us, is VERY important to heed.
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Old 09-11-2009, 05:28 PM   #13
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Re: Reneging is unacceptable

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Who cares??? I negotiated for an item last week, offer was accepted but seller sent me an email the next day saying he changed his mind and wanted to keep it. Perhaps he got a better offer or perhaps he really decided to keep it. Either way, it is his item and he is free to do as he pleases with it. I did not feel one bit slighted but to each his own.
Obviously some people do. It's called integrity. If you say you'll do something then do it. I don't lose sleep over someone else doing it to me, I can't force him to follow through on something and quite frankly it's not worth my time. That does not mean it should be acceptable behavoir.

There is too much in terms of "good manners" that is slipping in this generation. What was considered unacceptable behavoir even 10 years ago is not commented on now. While I can't force my concept of integrity on others I will never condone the behavoir, not in myself, my kids or even my friends.

As suggested, time is too valuable to waste on this type of behavoir and those to ascribe to it. I won't and will not be associated with any who do.
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Old 09-11-2009, 06:17 PM   #14

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whatever happened to the concept "first come first served"? thats the way i always dealt. and if that didnt go through then it would be next in line... usually when i pm about an item, i am usually the one who gets it. unless plans changed then i tell the seller/buyer sorry but things have changed . and to go and sell to next in line.... easy concept that has gotten away from most on here....but as it sits, yes i believe that once entered into any kind of agreement it should be the buyer/sellers.... it is still to this day even though verbal, is still a legal contract... unless the laws have changed ?
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Old 09-11-2009, 06:19 PM   #15

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It comes down to Integrity ... maybe better to have it this way ... if they don't have Integrity , maybe they didn't represent the item honestly .... especially if it makes then another $$$$$ or 2.... Integrity is do the Right thing even if no one is looking
Just my humble opinion ...
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Old 09-11-2009, 07:31 PM   #16
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I'm with DMT, Waylander and Dhammond on this one. That is part of buying and selling on the RC Canada website. We are a community of fellow hobbyists that should be looking out for one another and dealing with the highest level of integrity. If I was dealing on Kijiji, Ebay or Craigslist I would be much more guarded in my purchases and would not feel the same way.

I have yet to have a bad deal with anyone on this site (to the contrary, all have been exemplary) and hope the tradition continues. Unfortunately there are a few among us that do our community and the integrity we share within in it a disservice. In some of the posts I've read over the last year it is obvious that some capitalize on those of us that let our guard down because we feel we are a part of a Canadian fraternity of fellow hobbyists.

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Old 09-11-2009, 07:48 PM   #17
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Not everyone is going to behave the way that you think they should so get over it already.

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Old 09-11-2009, 08:28 PM   #18
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I've had several problems with me accepting offers and then the buyer never contacting me again. Guess I should have given them neg feedback for reneging!

Either way it's just plain rude.
Oh well....time to move on.

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Old 09-11-2009, 09:17 PM   #19
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The problem is that there really isn't a way of enforcing contracts here, however legal that they may be.

I suppose that you could always take the other party to court (try Judge Judy) but the costs (time and money) would outweigh the benefits.

If you are honourable and forthright and honest, attempt to stay that way; even with all sorts of people around here who are not-so.

If you don't want to trade here, that's your option. Swap meets, boot sales, etc. have the same sorts swimming around like sharks outside of the schools of fish, looking for the fast bite.

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Old 09-12-2009, 12:28 AM   #20
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Re: Reneging is unacceptable

Boy, I've had nothing but great dealings on RCC so far. One seller on the East Coast even sent the item on my word that I had sent a check!!!!

Some people have been more guarded, but all have come through in the end and reinforced my belief in my fellow man / woman (modeler).

Kudos to all of you who stick to your word. You are a great example for those whose life touches yours.
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