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Old 02-27-2010, 10:34 AM   #11
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I used to think that since I am a chemist I knew it all, and none of these solvents would harm me.

A couple of years ago I was building a "plug" for a sailboat hull which required joining .25 inch balsa strips together, a couple of hundred or so. I was using thin ca as recommended and ended up in the emergency with severe respiratory difficulty. When I sat severe I mean severe...I couldn't walk more than 20 feet at a time. I was diagnosed with pneumonia but I am convinced that breathing the ca fumes exacerbated the condition by reacting with my lungs much the same way your skin reacts when you accidentally get some on your finger. Anyway I think the advice given above is valid. Use a fan, plenty of ventilation, use a mask, we can't afford to take chances with our health. I know I've become a bit paranoid and that with proper care we can use any glue. MSDS sheets do tend to mention every possible problem that might exist but nonetheless if you can smell it, it is probably getting into your lungs. Use that as your safety valve. Watch out for flammability.

Don't get paranoid like me but don't take chances either...we'd all like to be still gluing at 75.

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Old 02-27-2010, 11:57 AM   #12
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you gave good answers tom.You can never be too safe.My sentiments exactly.
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I have a friend who developed a similar response to CA as Toms, but not quite as severe. It usu sally set in about 1 to 2 hours later. He and I have both since been using respirator masks with s"solvent cannisters when doing any gluing with CA, or any work with strong solvent paints. You can get the disposable versions for not many $$ at most industrial safety supply houses, and also form some Internet stores - such as Lee Valley.

I keep mine in a plastic bag between uses and it lasts a long time !

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Old 02-27-2010, 08:39 PM   #14
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Re: glue question

Originally Posted by rusty33 View Post
Not really a RC question per se, but still relevant.

My sons have very recently rediscovered (that word will seem funny in a moment) building plastic kits. This has actually taken significant time away from their Xbox activity so as a responsible parent, I am trying to decide how to deal with this! (tongue firmly in cheek) They are 14 and 9 (so, 'rediscovered' seem funny now?). I have been using something called Proweld, but it contains a chemical called Methylene chloride. This is pretty nasty stuff, and not just for it's odor. MSDS suggests a potential link to cancer. I remember using buckets of testors glue when I was a kid and I don't think I suffered too much Proweld is not an adhesive, but rather acts by melting the two pieces of styrene together. I have given both lads the old 'safety first' lecture and there is pretty decent airflow in the work area. They are currently using testors. I'm a bit sensitive to the potential of cancer right now, particularly with the young one, but not as result of this glue topic so...

On to the question.

What glues do you use for plastics and what precautions are you taking? Have any of you tired the so-called 'non-toxic' glue products?

I don't want or need this to turn into a lecture...just curious what you use.
Methylene Chloride is the active chemical in paint stripper. I buy it buy the 20 litre pail (my business is woodworking and included furniture repair and restoration). It is pretty nasty stuff! Melts plastic well though... but I would go with the Tamiya product as well.

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