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jtsmash · 05-16-2016, 08:46 PM

Hi guys looking for tips to nail down rolling circles etc. Im a thumb flyer and currently do not use a neck strap. The problem is after about he 4th roller i seem to be unknowingly putting my throttle down untl i have to abandon the maneuver. Sometimes i get half way around my circle before i catch it.
I was practicing with my electric extra so i dont have the engine noise to realize ive moved the throttle down. My "rythum" seems ok until i mess up my timing with throttle.
This is one maneuver that im hoping to master this year so any tips/ tricks would be great!

JoeT · 05-16-2016, 09:47 PM

Can you do a regular rolling circle? The reason I'm asking is, you can do a regular one using just aileron and elevator. It's a starting point.

Do 3 consecutive rolls, the increase to 5, then increase to 8 and modify your elevator timing to make it curve by either adding positive elevator earlier or holding it longer.

Once you've gotten comfortable with that then slow it down and add rudder to the controls.

VA6WGO · 05-18-2016, 04:43 PM

Hi Jason,
Just wondering if you mean a rolling harrier? As you know timing is everything and there is no free lunch on this maneuver.

When I first learned it, I did just rudder for awhile then just elevator for while, then I mixed both, it helped me with the timing and the power changes throughout the maneuver.

To be able to steer right or left, rolling harrier loops etc, it took me a good 2-3 seasons. It is not easy but the timing eventually clicks in. Having a good roll rate that is not too slow but not too crazy fast makes a huge difference at the beginning.

The answer is sitting in the bottom of you fuel jug

Will

jtsmash · 05-19-2016, 06:45 AM

Thanks Joe and Will. Yes Will that is where I am at. Starting to add rudder to get to a rolling harrier.
Hopefully the weather is nice this weekend and ill get more practice in!
just got to keep my thumb from moving the throttle down when I use rudder lol.

BMG · 02-24-2020, 04:34 PM

Jason, quit practicing that. You're going to make me look bad enough without mastering that too.

**scaleguy** · 02-28-2020, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BMG

Jason, quit practicing that. You're going to make me look bad enough without mastering that too.

Brendan,

Jason's last post was 4 years ago so I'm sure he's already made you look bad!

BMG · 02-28-2020, 08:37 AM

I missed the posting date Jim.

No harm though, I wan to rattle him as much as possible.

He will be a real contender with an unlimited up-line with his new DLE120 that replaced his DA100.

Going to be interesting to watch his skills progress with the new power at his fingertips.

**scaleguy** · 02-28-2020, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BMG

I missed the posting date Jim.

No harm though, I wan to rattle him as much as possible.

He will be a real contender with an unlimited up-line with his new DLE120 that replaced his DA100.

Going to be interesting to watch his skills progress with the new power at his fingertips.

Crap isn't he moving up to INT as well?

Well just secured my last place standing. LOL!

Although my Aerotech Yak has a DA120 on Plane Bender cans so I MIGHT give him a run for his money!..... NOT! LOL

AJCoholic · 02-28-2020, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by scaleguy

Crap isn't he moving up to INT as well?

Well just secured my last place standing. LOL!

Although my Aerotech Yak has a DA120 on Plane Bender cans so I MIGHT give him a run for his money!..... NOT! LOL

Maybe you guys can have an unlimited vertical race? Screw the IMAC, just the fastest climb to 1000’ from a dead start.

05-16-2016, 08:46 PM	#1
jtsmash RCC Senior Contributor I am: Jason T. Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Sudbury, Ontario Radio of choice: DX9 # of RCs: 6 Feedback: 13 / 93% Posts: 512 Total Props: 21	Rolling circle help Remove this ad - become a site supporter! Hi guys looking for tips to nail down rolling circles etc. Im a thumb flyer and currently do not use a neck strap. The problem is after about he 4th roller i seem to be unknowingly putting my throttle down untl i have to abandon the maneuver. Sometimes i get half way around my circle before i catch it. I was practicing with my electric extra so i dont have the engine noise to realize ive moved the throttle down. My "rythum" seems ok until i mess up my timing with throttle. This is one maneuver that im hoping to master this year so any tips/ tricks would be great! __________________ www.smac.vianet.ca Instructor MAAC 40891 IMAC 8158
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05-16-2016, 09:47 PM	#2
JoeT RCC Supreme Contributor I am: JoeT Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Maple, Ontario, Canada Radio of choice: Tandemist (Ex Horusist) # of RCs: 5 Feedback: 24 / 100% Posts: 2,116 Total Props: 65	Re: Rolling circle help Can you do a regular rolling circle? The reason I'm asking is, you can do a regular one using just aileron and elevator. It's a starting point. Do 3 consecutive rolls, the increase to 5, then increase to 8 and modify your elevator timing to make it curve by either adding positive elevator earlier or holding it longer. Once you've gotten comfortable with that then slow it down and add rudder to the controls. __________________ Many many clubs Horusrc.ca my favorite FRSKY store Join RC Antics on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/rcantics/ Skywing Edge 540 V3 Build: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rcan...9580468180020/ Skywing NG Build: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rcan...4310223707045/
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05-18-2016, 04:43 PM	#3
VA6WGO RCC Senior Contributor I am: Will Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Red Deer, AB Radio of choice: Futaba 32MZ # of RCs: 5 Feedback: 4 / 100% Posts: 632 Total Props: 15	Re: Rolling circle help Hi Jason, Just wondering if you mean a rolling harrier? As you know timing is everything and there is no free lunch on this maneuver. When I first learned it, I did just rudder for awhile then just elevator for while, then I mixed both, it helped me with the timing and the power changes throughout the maneuver. To be able to steer right or left, rolling harrier loops etc, it took me a good 2-3 seasons. It is not easy but the timing eventually clicks in. Having a good roll rate that is not too slow but not too crazy fast makes a huge difference at the beginning. The answer is sitting in the bottom of you fuel jug Will __________________ Team Futaba Team Thunder Power Team Plettenberg Falcon Props
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05-19-2016, 06:45 AM	#4
jtsmash RCC Senior Contributor I am: Jason T. Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Sudbury, Ontario Radio of choice: DX9 # of RCs: 6 Feedback: 13 / 93% Posts: 512 Total Props: 21	Re: Rolling circle help Thanks Joe and Will. Yes Will that is where I am at. Starting to add rudder to get to a rolling harrier. Hopefully the weather is nice this weekend and ill get more practice in! just got to keep my thumb from moving the throttle down when I use rudder lol. __________________ www.smac.vianet.ca Instructor MAAC 40891 IMAC 8158
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02-24-2020, 04:34 PM	#5
BMG RCC Expert Contributor I am: Brendan G. Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Sudbury, Ontario Radio of choice: 18MZ # of RCs: 3.5 Feedback: 0 / 0% Posts: 787 Total Props: 4	Re: Rolling circle help Jason, quit practicing that. You're going to make me look bad enough without mastering that too.
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02-28-2020, 08:37 AM	#7
BMG RCC Expert Contributor I am: Brendan G. Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Sudbury, Ontario Radio of choice: 18MZ # of RCs: 3.5 Feedback: 0 / 0% Posts: 787 Total Props: 4	Re: Rolling circle help I missed the posting date Jim. No harm though, I wan to rattle him as much as possible. He will be a real contender with an unlimited up-line with his new DLE120 that replaced his DA100. Going to be interesting to watch his skills progress with the new power at his fingertips.
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