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Old 09-11-2020, 08:29 AM   #21
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I dont understand what you are trying to say. Whatever they are doing as MAAC BOD, if Covid did not lock us down they would have still had to hold the AGM regardless.

I'm saying the "getting ready for an in-person AGM" is a time consuming process, and if they aren't doing that, why don't they invest that time and set up a zoom meeting instead? Is it really that hard? (or that much "more work" than setting up the in-person AGM??)
I believe you overestimate the amount of time the BOD spends organizing the AGM and feel your inference that they are wasting a lot of time doing it was a bit over the top. The AGM at the basic level is voting to approve / reject resolution, recommendations from previous year's AZMs. Most of their work, which has been substantial in recent years, is stuff like revamping all our safety code doesn't go to the floor of the AGM....

I'm not opposed to a different way of doing the AGM, but until the government changes the rules, they're stuck with it...... and trying to lobby the government to change that would be waste of their time when there is more important work to do for the membership.
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Old 09-14-2020, 06:48 AM   #22
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Zoom is a paradigm shift that new adopters are taking full advantage of. My work requires a lot of travel, a lot of it overseas.
Since the march lockdown, work meetings with ZOOM has been a godsend. My meetings are as effective in ZOOM as they are in person. Only now I spend more time at home and less time in hotel rooms. I still travel, but not as much, preferring to do ZOOM meetings as often as I can.

Also for our club meetings, we have held them on ZOOM in the spring right up to our summer recess. I can see how ZOOM might replace our meetings in the dead of winter. Maybe not all of them, but I can see every other one on ZOOM.

The DNC had their convention on ZOOM. (please, no comments on DNC or politics!, I'm just pointing out that they did it)

I don't see why MAAC cant do it for the AGM. It might actually raise the attendance and give those that cant bother with making the trip to the AGM a chance to attend. They would finally be able to get a peek at how good (or bad) these meetings can be.

I hope people of MAAC are seeing this and take it into consideration.
Fully support this , should be an online meeting, Skype broadcast
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Old 09-14-2020, 10:18 AM   #23
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Fully support this , should be an online meeting, Skype broadcast
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then should the maac mag be 100% electronic.
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Old 09-14-2020, 04:56 PM   #24
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Re: MAC Magazine and MAAC AGM cancelled

I get the digital and no credit for saving postage but it works for me. Digital does not work for all.
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:32 AM   #25
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Other than the bureaucracy, wouldn't you hope that anyone on the field would be able to pass a competency test at any given time?
The competency test is also simple, from what I see in MSD 25

Also:
6.2 A club has the discretion to upgrade or downgrade their club member between “student” and “qualified pilot” designation, regardless of continuous membership years, as circumstances dictate.
Makes me think it gives clubs a possible big stick to interpret as broadly or as narrowly as they see fit.

Due to many commitments my actual flying has been nearly nil the last 2.5 seasons.

With increased visibility and wording entrenched in the exemption I expect clubs will be more militant about it.

Just the thought of it drives my ever present anxiety through the roof. I will be shaking such that the radio will fall out of my hands.

I have been flirting with the idea of ditching flying things for a bit now anyway. 1/5 Scale dirt oval racing........now there's a hobby

Time for a shop cleaning sale.

Do I go "Bargain Basement" this Fall or wait till Spring?
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Old 09-15-2020, 08:20 AM   #26
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Re: MAC Magazine and MAAC AGM cancelled

Clubs are created by local persons, for local interests, and specific to the limitations of the sites the local organizers have acquired.

The wording is purposefully written to maintain local control as individual clubs know their site, know what is needed to fly safe and assumed know their individual members.

MAAC provides the structure, guidance and basic standards to meet T.C. and insurance requirements that aid local members in establishing and/or maintaining their local flying sites.

Its always been up to the local flyers to establish and maintain their culture of safe flying based on the above.

MAAC does not, cannot, police and micro manage individual clubs.

They have simply (finally... overdue... federally required) defined... to the simplest level possible.... what the standard is for basic pilot competency.

..... basic knowledge, prep, take-off, turn away from pits, maintain control of your aircraft within the defined local boundaries / restriction and land it in a safe manner. It really, truly, can't get any simpler than that.

...local politics cannot, and does not factor in.

....essentially, nothing has changed.

I'm sure your local club will welcome you back, if / when you decide that playing in 3 dimensions instead of ground pounding in 2 dimensions is more challenging / fun?



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Makes me think it gives clubs a possible big stick to interpret as broadly or as narrowly as they see fit.

Due to many commitments my actual flying has been nearly nil the last 2.5 seasons.

With increased visibility and wording entrenched in the exemption I expect clubs will be more militant about it.

Just the thought of it drives my ever present anxiety through the roof. I will be shaking such that the radio will fall out of my hands.

I have been flirting with the idea of ditching flying things for a bit now anyway. 1/5 Scale dirt oval racing........now there's a hobby

Time for a shop cleaning sale.

Do I go "Bargain Basement" this Fall or wait till Spring?
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Re: MAC Magazine and MAAC AGM cancelled

Although technically correct that it should be a universal standard with no biases........that is not reality in some cases. I have seen plenty of big sticks swung over the years......and worse.

I will say that at Steton's I would NEVER expect anything but friendly inclusion and helpful people. That's the kind of club it is.

None of that changes the point I was making about anxiety. Older age has made it worse. Flying is really no fun anymore. A test would be even worse.

The sale will be going ahead.

Heavy investing in weather station hardware, some chassis for Mars Rover etc. etc. will be where the money will go.

I'm feeling better already
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Although technically correct that it should be a universal standard with no biases........that is not reality in some cases. I have seen plenty of big sticks swung over the years......and worse.

I will say that at Steton's I would NEVER expect anything but friendly inclusion and helpful people. That's the kind of club it is.

None of that changes the point I was making about anxiety. Older age has made it worse. Flying is really no fun anymore. A test would be even worse.

The sale will be going ahead.

Heavy investing in weather station hardware, some chassis for Mars Rover etc. etc. will be where the money will go.

I'm feeling better already
Ok.....sooo.... . clearly your time with the hobby was already concluded and decision made and if the hobby is a source for anxiety, then probably a good one for you.

Hope you have fun in whatever you choose.

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Flying is really no fun anymore. A test would be even worse.


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Understood by many of us, I'm not there yet. Part of the problem is you are probbly too hard on yourself. The ones that might need a spot check are not anxious and they are full of confidence!
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True enough.
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