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Old 06-09-2021, 09:11 PM   #11
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I find that Canada post shipping is over priced for what we get and now I see that in January they are going to have a 3.5% increase.
I’m not sure what this is exactly supposed to mean. And I’m not being facetious.

I can mail a smallish parcel across Canada for $25 or send something like an engine from Northern ON to southern ON for $13 or $14...

I can’t drive 100km for less than $20 in fuel. Obviously not practical to deliver myself is it?

So what am I basing the “over priced” statement on?

Any other means costs more.
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Old 06-09-2021, 10:12 PM   #12
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For me, the benefits of growing up in a rural area and being able to live my whole 70 years (up to now) on the same property far outweigh a bit of extra postage occasionally.
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The statement that Canada Post does not have competition is not true. They are competing with every courier company in the country. The bulk of the business Canada Post does is in parcels. There is very little letter mail now.

I don't know what happens in the cities but here in rural Alberta Canada Post delivers to the door. No other courier company does that! Others have one or two pick up/drop off points in each town, usually a local place of business and that is it! You have to drive to pick your stuff up. Mine comes right to my door 15 miles out of town! Is that worth something? I think it is!
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Old 06-10-2021, 01:53 AM   #14
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Funny that in the "big city" it is the opposite. The couriers deliver to the door and the Canada Post deliveries are either left at the mailboxes or at the post office. Unless of course CP wants sales tax and a fee for cross border.
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Not here . If it doesn’t fit in the community mailbox they deliver to the door ; conditional that the driver isn’t too lazy as some will leave a notice in the mailbox even though the doorstep is only a couple of hundred feet away. The only time they may not drop at the door is if they need a signature and even then they may do a drop .
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Next time you get an item by mail from the Far East, check out it’s postage. It’s next to nothing.
So we, the Canadian Canada Post users, are are subsidizing the Canada Post portion of the shipping costs for all these big Far East online merchants.
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Not here . If it doesnít fit in the community mailbox they deliver to the door ; conditional that the driver isnít too lazy as some will leave a notice in the mailbox even though the doorstep is only a couple of hundred feet away. The only time they may not drop at the door is if they need a signature and even then they may do a drop .
Lazy? Maybe but more like not paid any extra to do it. Since the Pandemic postal workers have had the responsibility of dropping off parcels at homes to try and cut down on traffic in the post office buildings. There has been little to no extra pay for the extra time and effort involved. There are three valid reasons not to: 1) no one to sign if a signature is required, 2) parcel is over 50 pounds, 3) there is a dog in the yard.
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Old 06-10-2021, 04:00 PM   #18
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OFF topic but #3 reminds me of working with a utility. We had a new meter reader who had way more dogs in yard than any other reader.
Smart guy. So smart that the union job was gone and he had to look again for work!
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Old 06-10-2021, 05:10 PM   #19
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Next time you get an item by mail from the Far East, check out it’s postage. It’s next to nothing.
So we, the Canadian Canada Post users, are are subsidizing the Canada Post portion of the shipping costs for all these big Far East online merchants.

hmmmmm....... my reaction to your conclusion that postal system of Canada delivers the parcel within Canada for free, without compensation ..... was one of that can't be true or so simple.

.... once upon a time - centuries ago, it may have been true on the basis international mail consisting solely of letters on the assumption that every letter would generate a responding letter and there would be equal volumes incoming and outgoing mail between countries.

But mail soon included more than personal letters; incoming and outgoing mail volumes became imbalanced, etc.

Since the 1854 Treaty of Bern, there has been a Universal Postal Union organization, now part of the United Nations, that periodically negotiates with with postal systems of all countries compensation for the receiving country.... called terminal dues, typically based on volume/weight of all mail/parcels on quarterly basis.

A country may be subsidizing its outgoing mail/parcels by charging its citizens/businesses, less than the full cost of delivery.... typically for economic development.
So the postage on the parcel may not represent the full amount paid by the sender and his country.

I once calculated that it cost less for a Canadian r/c hobbyist to use the postal system to send a typical parcel - a four pound box t - the U.S., than it would cost the U.S. hobbyist to send the same to me, including currency conversion. Is the Canadian postal system subsidizing me - unfairly -compared to the U.S. hobbyist wanting to sell into Canada? Or is the USPS overcharging its users?
Maybe (smiley)

Here's the best online account that I found
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Postal_Union
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The statement that Canada Post does not have competition is not true. They are competing with every courier company in the country. The bulk of the business Canada Post does is in parcels. There is very little letter mail now.

I don't know what happens in the cities but here in rural Alberta Canada Post delivers to the door. No other courier company does that! Others have one or two pick up/drop off points in each town, usually a local place of business and that is it! You have to drive to pick your stuff up. Mine comes right to my door 15 miles out of town! Is that worth something? I think it is!
You must be really in the boonies. I get all.the couriers to the door. CP.........not so much lol
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