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Old Yesterday, 01:09 AM   #1
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Got myself a Saito 450 radial engine with a Mcdaneil glow driver. Seems from what I read I can only power the system with 4.8V. 6 glow plugs to power on 3 cylinders. I did find a 15 amp battery from battery space.com. Anybody have experience with this engine?
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Re: Saito 450

4.8 volts is made up of four nicad cells or nickel-metal.
You could use two lipo cells with a regulator.
This would be much lighter.
I would suggest at least 2,000 milliamps.
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I do have a 2 cell lipo 7.6 amp. It is between 6.4v to 8.2v. I use it for my ASP fs400ar radial with a Sullivan glow driver wish can take up to 12v. I will look into a regulator. Never used one yet. I have to get educated on it.
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I guess this would work. Not cheap. https://www.greathobbies.com/product...d=CCR010000400
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Re: Saito 450

try to power it with a single cell lipo, it may just be enough .
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Re: Saito 450

Not sure on the 450, but my Saito 182 twin (with twin plugs per cylinder) instructions specifically says to only power the rear plugs not all 4. So, maybe you'd only need to light up 3 plugs, not 6.

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Re: Saito 450

I agree... I have the same 182 twin and you only need to light one plug per cylinder. The plug reacts with the alcohol and a bit of heat, so once it fires, so will the second plug.

Know any heli flyers that might have a 5.1 step down regulator for a tail rotor? They were cheap new. usually under $10.
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I will have to download the Saito 450 instruction manual. Not much info for the McDaniel website. Either 3 or 6 glow plugs to power, I can see it change the amperage draw but still will have the same voltage problem. One lipo will give me 4 volt max.
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Re: Saito 450

I was curious, so I found the manual on the Horizon site. Yup, you only need to light three plugs.

"NOTE: It is not necessary to ignite
all six of the glow plugs for the
FA-450 or all 10 of the glow plugs
for the FA-325. The front plugs
will ignite once the engine reaches
operating temperature."

https://www.horizonhobby.com/pdf/SAI...ine-Manual.pdf
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Re: Saito 450

Four nicad cells or nickel-metal will measure close to 6 volts when fully charged, witch is fine.
4.8 volts is the main voltage when the fully charged batteries bleed off.
Lipos will start at 4.2 volts per cell then cruise on 3.7 per cell.
Try what Rogers suggested, one cell, make sure you try it when the lipos down to 3.7 volts.
I found multiple cylinder glow drivers work better on a lower voltage.
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