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Old 04-12-2018, 02:29 PM   #21
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5 gal = 19 litres approx at 50/50 so roughly if you want 10% you need to add 19 to get 25%, another 19 to get 12.5%..... NO?
That's what I originally thought. But your only thinning down half the 19 liters pail which is the methanol. That's how I came up with the 9.5 liters amount. I haven't been in school for 40 years so I could be wrong. Cheers Floyd
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Old 04-12-2018, 02:36 PM   #22
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Re: Methanol In Ontario

I was a little in error also. I believe the spreadsheet I did is right (added above)You are not thinning down half. You need to double the volume. Enough anyway!!
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Old 04-12-2018, 02:38 PM   #23
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Re: Methanol In Ontario

The way or procedure I use to mix my fuel as you can't buy it premixed is:
for every 1 litres which is 1000 mil
is take your empty container of say 1000 ml and add say 180 ml of oil for 18%
or the number of ml equal to the percentage of mix you want then add 50 ml of nitro
for 5% and so on. Lastly add the fuel to the 1000 ml mark and you have your final brew.

You can work multiples of 1000 ml of final mix to what ever ratio. ie you want to mix 5 litres final volume then you just multiply the 180ml of oil by 5 and the 50mm of nitro by 5 and add the alcohol to top out at 5 litres total.....

My turbine fuel I need 5% oil so I take my empty container add my 500 ml of oil and top up
to 10 litres (10000 ml) of kerosene total to give me my 10 litres at 5% oil mix.
Everyone has their own way so no one way could be right as long as the final percentages work out.

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Old 02-03-2019, 11:47 AM   #24
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Re: Methanol In Ontario

I use 99.9% methyl hydrate (used to thin/clean lacquer) from Canadian Tire at 7$ for 3.78L (1 US gallon/4 quarts or 128oz), which I blend with 1 US quart (32oz) of Sig Castor oil to make 5 US quarts of 20%oil-fuel for a cost of $30 + taxes.
For 4%nitro-23%oil-fuel I substitute 1 US quart of commercial 20%nitro-18%synthetic-RC-fuel for 1 US quart of methyl hydrate (ie: 3m-h + 1cas + 1ni) for a cost of about $40 + taxes.
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Re: Methanol In Ontario

Hi, Methyl hydrate is Methanol. Here is the Google definition: Methanol (methyl hydrate) is a colourless liquid with an alcohol-like odour. ... Methanol is completely soluble in alcohol, water and ether. Methanol is generally used for industrial manufacturing purposes and has a variety of different uses.
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Old 02-03-2019, 09:38 PM   #26
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Here in Ontario Crappy sells a 3.78 liter jug for $9.99 plus tax which is $11.30.
The 5 gallon pale of Methanol is $60.00 taxes in. Plus the pale is steel and sealed better than the plastic jugs are. That's why I prefer to run PowerMaster fuel because it comes in a sealed steel can. Plastic is porous and any alcohol will absorb moisture over time. I also find my engines run better and rev better on Synthetic oil versus Castor. Cheers Floyd
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Old 02-04-2019, 09:03 AM   #27
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Re: Methanol In Ontario

What kind of synthetic oil can be used for home brew that isn't $15 a litre like Klotz? I still have a few bottles of Klotz left with the castor mixed in at the factory, but really don't want it in there for my one 4 stroke .90. (just one, I like two strokes) I know I can still buy fuel at Toledo reasonably, but guys in the club here are avoiding glow planes completely now because it is $40 a gallon. I can see why if you run a big plane with a .90. It would be nice to go to a Walmart and get some synthetic oil that mixes with methanol for maybe $8 Cdn. a litre.
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Old 04-30-2019, 07:51 AM   #28
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When I started this post in early 2018 I figured I'd save $6.00 a jug to mix my own FAI fuel and it just wasn't worth the hassle. I picked up a jug of 10% Cool Power last week for another member and paid almost $34.00 with tax. The price of fuel is up 25% over last year. Well the $6.00 I was going to save has now doubled this year making me think about my glow fuel supply. Since I run mostly newer OS engines that need no nitro the FAI fuel should work fine. I'm going to mix a jug of FAI fuel and see how my engines perform. I'm thinking the PowerMaster 20% fuel I did run was $40.00 a jug last year and will be $50.00 a jug this year. And I burn 1-2 jugs a week. I can now justify mixing my own fuel. The link to the oil in this post also has a price increase this year, but not by 25%. Cheers Floyd
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Some guys add 2% acetone to make it run smoother like nitro does. It does not add power though. It does evaporate fairly quickly so I would not mix big batches with it. I find many planes I seldom run at full throttle for very long except control line stuff of course.
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