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Old 05-23-2020, 06:41 PM   #21
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The flying characteristics of these aircraft are so different.

And when you increase the throttle on a plane it goes forward; on a heli it goes up. In order for a heli to go forward you push the elevator forward.

So the pilot has to learn to fly two different machines.
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It is not so difficult as many think. When you fly 3D you constantly have axis and direction changes. If you get used to it straight forward plane controls are so simple.
The only challenge with the plane I used to face was duration of flight. Most 3D electric helicopters fly around 3-4 minutes. So your brain learns maximum concentration for this time. Even if the helicopter is capable to fly more, normally you just land to get rest yourself. Planes flight time normally starts from 7 min. And though it is much easier to control, by the time you land you may be very tired of concentration.
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It is not so difficult as many think. When you fly 3D you constantly have axis and direction changes. If you get used to it straight forward plane controls are so simple.
The only challenge with the plane I used to face was duration of flight. Most 3D electric helicopters fly around 3-4 minutes. So your brain learns maximum concentration for this time. Even if the helicopter is capable to fly more, normally you just land to get rest yourself. Planes flight time normally starts from 7 min. And though it is much easier to control, by the time you land you may be very tired of concentration.
That is exactly what i realize every time i try to practice 3D i almost use all my brain capacity i reduce the timer as much as possible to fly shorter time but more focusing on maneuvers
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That is exactly what i realize every time i try to practice 3D i almost use all my brain capacity i reduce the timer as much as possible to fly shorter time but more focusing on maneuvers
Over the years i came to realize that i max out my brain capacity everytime i crash....lol
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I know flyers, that can fly extreme 3D, but as soon as they fly regular circuits they are not comfortable. I don't have the skill set to even think of flying 3D, so I just fly sport, just like my planes. and I've been flying since 1986.
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I know flyers, that can fly extreme 3D, but as soon as they fly regular circuits they are not comfortable. I don't have the skill set to even think of flying 3D, so I just fly sport, just like my planes. and I've been flying since 1986.
You have said a mouthful, and I have to agree. I have seen 3D heli fliers that cant even fly a figure 8 in forward flight with the same heli. They just cant seem to control the heli smoothly. Slamming it around the sky? No problem. Moving it smoothly from point A to point B?... Almost impossible...LOL

For these kinds of people, learning to fly airplanes will help them learn to move the sticks gently and improve their hand/eye co-ordination.
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Hey Max, do you still remember we use to fly our helis with wooden blades ? with lead weights on the tip. we wrap and balance our own blades Yale was one of the main supplier, even the fly bar have weights on them, for stability.
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Hey Max, do you still remember we use to fly our helis with wooden blades ? with lead weights on the tip. we wrap and balance our own blades Yale was one of the main supplier, even the fly bar have weights on them, for stability.
I sure do. They came as a kit with wood blades with a slot routed in them, a separate piece of lead rod, and some covering material. You had to assemble the blade yourself, getting just the right amount of lead weight and epoxy into each of the 2 blades, then painstakingly balancing the mass and CG to get it perfect before you put the covering on.... and then finding the covering threw out your weight and balance so now you had to use balancing tape...LOL Those were the good old days.

I sold off all my older helis except my concepts, which I liked the most. Andrew C has a thread on getting concepts flying again and I am feeling that same nostalgia. Maybe one day I will bring out some of my C-30's just for the fun of it.....
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Hey Max, do you still remember we use to fly our helis with wooden blades ? with lead weights on the tip. we wrap and balance our own blades Yale was one of the main supplier, even the fly bar have weights on them, for stability.
I still have about 4 sets of X-Cell 60 blades like that.
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